From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52063: 28.0.60; Confusing presentation of lambda Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:57:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83czmqaegb.fsf@gnu.org> <874k82vwe5.fsf@gnus.org> <831r35afde.fsf@gnu.org> <87v90hu36b.fsf@gnus.org> <83v90h8zjw.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1b5u1cl.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmqp8vps.fsf@gnu.org> <87v90ge5rc.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6hr9k79.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6hruk4u.fsf@gnus.org> <875ysfujya.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7446"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Philipp Stephani , Filipp Gunbin , 52063@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 26 15:59:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqch0-0001ih-CW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Fc7kt217lhCOFPj/UTkUBdzIpIPdrZ8aniw4Rn9zGWVwF3nY1SB10Sh932tdp2/s+ XeieVJMpalRm0y+ufvBjLcml2bNq/qsN2HDPzivnWlGAANQVSPQ/nx1yAaVw3P4LjC 5xUiedClXh7KbydksCtAeC2jvm1ZZmsTvB1ZzTAU6vXW6LlIF0y2/ioP4EdZgEPFoV nhAia+3YRjLG1alOVtdOmZwwIHNAAjEUzegRk6KH2FjdBwZBEKp1qY39xx750a0nbP ocU8A9aKIj+X20l2gON0zsxr8AzGuQQ/i3CuUDfvtCcCOtSLeIIMjMbBwrWxcx+ysB Lmowg/6siCuow== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 852E9120909; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:57:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <875ysfujya.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:26:21 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:220880 Archived-At: >>> I sense a bit of confusion: we're talking about the runtime representation >>> of function values: those never occur in source code. >> Yes, but we're able to funcall those runtime representations. I'd hope so: that's what runtime representation of functions are for. >> So that doesn't really make much of a difference here, I think? > (That is -- the point of all this is to make the printed representation > of the runtime representation more recognisable (and usable) as source > code, even if it'll never appear in nature.) My objection was to: (Which would also mean that we'd have to allow `declare' in lambdas, which I think we should anyway.) -- Stefan