From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70384: [PATCH] 30.0.50; save-mark-and-excursion breaks with tmm disabled Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:55:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86msprdj9e.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35092"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 70384@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Nelson To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 18 15:57:06 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rxSGA-0008tW-2h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 15:57:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxSFu-0004sx-GL; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:56:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxSFt-0004sU-5P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rxSFs-0005au-TI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:56:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxSG6-0002qJ-1F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70384 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 70384-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70384.171344858110576 (code B ref 70384); Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70384) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2024 13:56:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52582 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxSFP-0002kJ-V2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:56:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:14097) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rxSFN-0002jF-0H for 70384@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:56:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 13E97809C1; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:55:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1713448557; bh=gU+nX6A0zR6a0kE5Wz22a8Hogi0EWvlSCCp8z6GlQds=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ikDYHdiuTk+Fi2O3tCnJfZcrV8i6sr+jtyXXAi/niaF9Tf9Rr/h1mEnl+90RzeiFq edCxXQwZ9sEdoi4FrjbSXZLXswdPbrMyJF1JHBmKbJGKSWxYHpVb8V1likwdkXJZre L0v7lvfwOWNLOVS8y73eU/1KSxW4cY3/nwR0nN5a5Wf2H2KQisInopwm7gjw0dh1Ba LQuTTcWPFrA92xJ2OI69PrtB3rJaaq5DKPQkkxxztZy+rVpbcUQ1pvIep23fy/5GGf K8fAT1xgBypTgCEPZBg4OIvo3Cdp0nqvUfqYG1K+9bnpVPYEwWTMgwQXTYfSDqiAoo ZtOok7RuOp1XQ== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 24D2680065; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.201.215]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3AF11204C2; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:55:56 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <86msprdj9e.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Apr 2024 14:04:29 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283563 Archived-At: > I'm not sure I agree with your expectations. activate-mark activates > the mark unconditionally when transient-mark-mode is disabled, unless > you invoke it with a non-nil argument. And indeed > > (save-mark-and-excursion (activate-mark t)) > > behaves like you expect. > > Stefan, am I missing something? It's all very messy with dark corners where the right answer is unclear, yes. That's one of the reasons why I extracted that mark-handling functionality out of `save-excursion` in the first place. =F0=9F=99=82 IOW my opinion is: if you use `save-mark-and-excursion`, you get what you deserve. Stefan