From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9528: 24.0.50; Info navigation Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:41:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87mxe1li9l.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83fwjstt7f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316450529 26635 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2011 16:42:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9528@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 19 18:42:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R5guz-0004A2-A3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:42:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R5guy-0003od-T1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R5guv-0003oN-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R5guu-0003LO-U6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R5guu-0003LJ-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:42:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R5gzm-0003ju-E0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9528 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9528-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9528.131645078514330 (code B ref 9528); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9528) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2011 16:46:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R5gzA-0003j5-UT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R5gz7-0003iv-A9 for 9528@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:46:22 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAF9wd05FpZ7x/2dsb2JhbABCpzd4gVMBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSICrUJhngEoE6ERA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,406,1312171200"; d="scan'208";a="137139549" Original-Received: from 69-165-158-241.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.158.241]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 19 Sep 2011 12:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3A599591F1; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:41:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83fwjstt7f.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:03:48 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:47:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51486 Archived-At: > But I beg you to please leave the traditional operation of `l' alone. > If we want to cater to users who are confused by that, let's have a > separate command. We can bind it to something users nowadays expect, > like M-, and also to the "go back in history" button on the tool > bar. Just let's not change what `l' does, as long as the stand-alone > reader works like that. The difference is much too subtle to justify two different commands (I can't think of any single user who'd ever choose between the two commands). So if you really insist on having your behavior, then add a custom var (which should default to follow the superficial behavior), which you can then set in your .emacs. Stefan