From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13936: Default to UTF-8 for most Emacs source files Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:58:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bo9t9g05.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365278567 28804 80.91.229.3 (6 Apr 2013 20:02:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13936@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 06 22:02:43 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UOZJM-0001Uu-8O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:02:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOBrh-0007xa-W9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:59:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54095) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOBrX-0007dc-Ky for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:59:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOBrW-0007oX-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:59:47 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOBrW-0007oQ-9e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:59:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOBug-0007IO-7n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 15:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13936 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 13936-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13936.136518854327985 (code B ref 13936); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13936) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2013 19:02:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35921 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOBu3-0007HJ-6z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 15:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:50928) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOBu0-0007HB-LA for 13936@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 15:02:21 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r35Iwsr3027223; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7528CB4178; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:58:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87bo9t9g05.fsf@gnu.org> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Sat, 06 Apr 2013 00:03:22 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4539=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4539> : streams <934048> : uri <1385003> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73193 Archived-At: >> I don't think Handa's work is related. He's trying to improve the >> performance of Emacs when handling utf-8 files, whereas my request is >> for a change in behavior, regardless of performance. > If the performance is not the problem, > (with-coding-priority '(utf-8) > (load-file "_FILE_NAME_")) That will work only for files using the utf-8 coding system. My request is for ways to make it so that more of the .el files are written using the utf-8 coding system. E.g. something like setting buffer-coding-system in emacs-lisp-mode, for example. Stefan