From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15777: 24.3.50; cl symbols are no more fontlocked Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:22:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d2mk399d.fsf@gmail.com> <87vc0cuhag.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383333797 7161 80.91.229.3 (1 Nov 2013 19:23:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15777@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 01 20:23:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKJU-0008WF-Iq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 20:23:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39581 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKJU-0000ho-4L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:23:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKJK-0000hh-Fn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKJD-0003Gk-1k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:23:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKJC-0003Gg-V9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKJC-0000ts-Fb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:23:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15777 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 15777-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15777.13833337513411 (code B ref 15777); Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15777) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2013 19:22:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKIf-0000su-QR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:40351) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VcKId-0000sl-3a for 15777@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:22:27 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rA1JMQ55022423; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:22:26 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E2FE1B420C; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:22:25 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87vc0cuhag.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:07:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4749=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4749> : inlines <196> : streams <1066295> : uri <1582893> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79867 Archived-At: > I am sorry, but moving to cl-lib is not trivial Then we should try and reduce the effort needed. My experience with converting most of Emacs's own code to use cl-lib was rather straightforward: remove the (require 'cl), byte-compile, look at the output for complaints about unknown functions, search&replace those names. > and a lot of applications are still using cl. I know, which is why `cl' is still fully supported and will remain that way for a little while. > What you are discouraging is maintaining external elisp libraries, > remember that many people are using emacs just because there is external > libraries. We're only talking about the color given to symbols like defun* and loop. It doesn't seem like that should discourage external libraries. Stefan PS: the set of macros that are highlighted could/should be determined dynamically, so that your own local macros can also be highlighted with the `keyword' face. I'd welcome a patch that does that, and most likely such a patch would automatically highlight `loop' when cl.el is loaded.