From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64835: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98describe-variable=E2=80=99?= unconditionally let-binds =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98print-circle=E2=80=99?= to t Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:55:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2B9B42A9-1B2A-41EA-B66D-557471A8A8AA@gmail.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25452"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Sebastian Miele , 64835@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 15 04:56:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qVkEJ-0006TL-00 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2023 04:56:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVkE4-0002wo-OS; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVkDz-0002wd-Ab for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVkDy-0004Rd-K0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVkDy-0003BK-4O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 02:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64835 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64835-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64835.169206812912190 (code B ref 64835); Tue, 15 Aug 2023 02:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64835) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2023 02:55:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVkDQ-0003AY-VD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:55:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:45995) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVkDP-0003AM-4r for 64835@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:55:27 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BC547801B3; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:55:21 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1692068116; bh=YGi1fRakVj2rzRJcJb5Mk/oPRHAxyvxrGGp8pyGsgHU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=EmNa7JyJJv2PBxB5D/522v8f0Fs00GVoiMfbifpCCMmJlvUxBIYJ5mDAz4RoGeo7g hX+zzan585HLT28xa30WV+/Zhck4jGEo6+rCAefL6k5b3PtvMacEtMng/3T3MOelru GMJd5hdpIyH2eDmbthnLM1qfqOCcqITM2Z+gRXVem56J0bIDQh/jGUh3TPSSLta5d6 ljVF2oCG8OKiQ446Bi2yzdql1D9IgRhpEIsegXK64/uMz/7+EQY+Vf1eS0V0g9RHsU w5OrTyiIKFBsUqw1E+4kQf5+y6Z1kNcFwILguDbG6YDXaNC5+10Zrsi5uu0ONa4eJh yV+pOF/zw7MZA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 498D880060; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.228.154]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A4F912022A; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:55:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <2B9B42A9-1B2A-41EA-B66D-557471A8A8AA@gmail.com> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Sun, 6 Aug 2023 12:09:16 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267453 Archived-At: > Any way we can toggle print-circle interactively in the display? Perhaps > along with depth or length limits. I think it would be fairly easy to print with `print-circle` by default and allow users to click on the confusing #N= or #N# to switch to a display without `print-circle`, but I'm not sure it would help the confused users very much. And doing the opposite (i.e. starting from the non-print-circle output) seems a lot less obvious/natural :-( Stefan