From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10056: 24.0.91; Mark deactivation Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:01:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87wqws48gn.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87pq2kvzix.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <3A9C4978E1D547E291D780F57506CD26@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1359198661 15539 80.91.229.3 (26 Jan 2013 11:11:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10056@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 26 12:11:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3fF-0002a0-4W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:11:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51149 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3ex-0008WT-4V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35353) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3eu-0008WD-HP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3er-0002GW-Qa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:52 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44587) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3er-0002GS-MX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3f4-0005dD-V2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:11:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10056 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135919866021634 (code B ref -1); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2013 11:11:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50050 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3f1-0005cs-ST for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:11:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3ey-0005ck-VQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3ek-0002E4-HA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:43 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3ek-0002Dz-Di for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35300) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3ej-0008W6-CW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3ei-0002DQ-HH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:41 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp205.alice.it ([82.57.200.101]:52668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz3ei-0002AH-AB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (82.107.57.105) by smtp205.alice.it (8.6.058.01) id 50AA072A0A5101D7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:10:40 +0100 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id ACB49AE3F4; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:39 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:10:39 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C869BAE552; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:01:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Dani Moncayo's message of "Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:34:58 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70332 Archived-At: I agree with the idea that those commands should be thought of as "consuming" the region, so they should deactivate the mark even if the buffer is not modified. > [2] According to Chong, in this case perhaps the mark deactivation > should be made only when the call is interactive. Right, obviously when called non-interactively, they should take BEG..END arguments, and these are not necessarily related to the region, so they should deactivate the mark if they indeed used it to figure out the BEG..END, i.e. when called interactively. Stefan