From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18590: 24.3.93; Scrolling changes/forgets selection Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:09:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k34li7ex.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83ppedkwrs.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppedf1iw.fsf@moondust.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412100708 15145 80.91.229.3 (30 Sep 2014 18:11:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18590@debbugs.gnu.org To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. 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Jackson's message of "Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:42:31 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93936 Archived-At: >> Yes, there's a good reason: a selection in Emacs is always between >> point and the mark, and when scrolling causes it to go off the >> displayed portion of the buffer, Emacs moves point to bring it back >> into view, which changes the selected portion of the text. > Hmm... I see. But why does point need to be visible? A design decision. As mentioned in http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9616623/ctrl-up-down-style-scrolling-in-emacs/9807039#9807039, the behavior you expect could be implemented, but nobody bothered to do so yet. Stefan