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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 66912@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#66912: With `require', the byte compiler reports the wrong file for errors.
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2024 15:26:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr07lo4y3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zy5uMii0Fw-sz_MW@MAC.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 8 Nov 2024 20:01:54 +0000")

>> I understand that, but I don't think it explains why you think it's
>> a problem.  E.g. when you're in the debugger, you can see the stack
>> trace which tells you we're loading A, so you don't need to be told
>> "while loading A" in the error message.
> OK, I see what you mean.  I took it for granted that the message should
> be the same, regardless of whether it is reported by a debugger or by
> the error handler.

AFAIK the debugger does not emit the "error message" at all, it shows
the error object instead, so it's already different.

And the full info would readily be available from `Vloads_in_progress_at_error`.

>> I'm just describing the way I see it: I personally don't have a good
>> intuition of how/when it could misbehave nor how to work around such
>> cases, whereas I very much do for the approach I propose and AFAICT it's
>> not just because I proposed it but it's because it follows
>> a known pattern, so I expect the same will hold for other coders.
> Experience with byte-compile-form-stack suggests it won't misbehave.
> Its simplicity should make it easy to think through.

AFAICT

    (equal (error-message-string ERROR-OBJECT)
           (error-message-string ERROR-OBJECT))

will not always return t, which I'd consider as a misbehavior.

I don't mean that we need to fix it.  Just that that there *will* be
misbehaviors, because we use a low-tech approach which stashes the info
in a global variable.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-08 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-03 11:32 bug#66912: With `require', the byte compiler reports the wrong file for errors Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-03 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-12 16:30   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-12 17:28     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-12 20:41       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-12 21:19         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-12 23:00           ` Drew Adams
2024-10-29 18:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-30 19:33             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-30 21:52               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-30 22:31                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-02 13:47                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-02 14:51                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-03 22:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04  2:46                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-04 12:52                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04 16:12                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-04 21:08                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05  3:27                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-05  4:15                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-05 14:54                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 19:00                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-05 20:33                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 23:20                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-06 16:23                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-06 18:51                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-06 20:12                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-06 23:14                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-07 12:37                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-07 16:09                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-07 17:15                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-08 13:42                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-08 20:01                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-08 20:26                                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-11-09 12:35                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-09 16:45                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-10 10:40                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-10 16:45                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-10 17:48                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-10 21:37                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-12 14:53                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-12 15:38                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-07 15:04                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 12:18                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 14:04                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 14:06                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-04 16:35                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04 12:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 13:13                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04 13:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii

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