From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3643: emacs -Q doesn't fit on the user's screen Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:06:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4B5E9209.1070208@swipnet.se> <877hr486t9.fsf@jidanni.org> <4B5FDB52.9020300@swipnet.se> <878wbj6k77.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4B613A3F.8070601@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264705828 5071 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2010 19:10:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , 3643@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 28 20:10:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaZkx-000514-GI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:10:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36442 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NaZkw-0007NA-To for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NaZkr-0007MT-GG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NaZkm-0007Lu-7s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:10:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46036 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NaZkm-0007Lq-2n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45036) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NaZkl-000454-NS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:10:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaZij-00061J-Ri; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:08:01 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3643 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3643.126470562723078 (code B ref 3643); Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:08:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jan 2010 19:07:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaZhq-00060B-Ot for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:07:06 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NaZho-0005zl-UV for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:07:05 -0500 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o0SJ6xCq003097; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:06:59 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6322C3A814; Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:06:59 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4B613A3F.8070601@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv"'s?= message of "Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:18:23 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3458=0 X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:08:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34775 Archived-At: > Ok. Maybe close this bug wih WONTFIX and tell people to get a better window > manager? Your Emacs is too big for your desktop area, but the wm > fixes that. > On compiz/metacity starting Emacs with something crazy like -geometry > 80x4000+9000+9000 still produces a window that is within bounds. I don't think that's the right answer. I consider metacity's insistence on preventing the user from resizing the window to be larger than the screen to be a bug (or its insistence on preventing the user from moving a window above the screen's top, similarly). So I think Emacs should try to do a better job choosing a default size, based on the screen size, such that the default size (including WM decorations) is not larger than the screen. Stefan