From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:15:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ppsiw22k.fsf@gmail.com> <83sixej6iz.fsf@gnu.org> <878uz573kr.fsf@gmail.com> <83fvtck8mv.fsf@gnu.org> <87hadrel77.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjrjiifl.fsf@gnu.org> <877gel1ejy.fsf@gmail.com> <87vc25z1pe.fsf@gmail.com> <83vc24hmtr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379085381 23143 80.91.229.3 (13 Sep 2013 15:16:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15312@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 13 17:16:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV6b-0005Ww-1j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:16:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47982 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV6a-00082y-HW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:16:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37564) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV6Q-00081S-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV6I-0006Za-6q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV6I-0006ZV-45 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV6H-000359-My for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15312 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15312-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15312.13790853219101 (code B ref 15312); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15312) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2013 15:15:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33959 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV5b-0002Ll-Pl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:38620) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKV5Z-0002Cn-8W for 15312@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:15:17 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rxBo/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rxBo/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="27634612" Original-Received: from 184-175-16-104.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.16.104]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 13 Sep 2013 11:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D66F262CD8; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:15:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83vc24hmtr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:29:20 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78347 Archived-At: > Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying about the original issue > with point-entered/left. Are you saying that the code works > correctly, or are you saying it has a bug? That the code that uses the `point-entered/left' property (just like the code that uses the other mentioned properties like `display', `mouse-face', ...) considers runs of characters with the same property value as belonging together; which means that the text-property is used to specify a kind of interval. Clearly, this disagrees with: ,---- (info "(elisp) Not Intervals") | "What are the properties of this character?" So we have decided these | are the only questions that make sense; we have not implemented asking | questions about where intervals start or end. `---- And actually the above text is incorrect/incomplete in the sense that next-single-property-change clearly implements a functionality that lets you "ask questions about where intervals start or end". Stefan