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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 10458@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10458: 24.0.92; ! in dired on a file starting with a hyphen
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:51:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvpmnfiplk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ley4l48d.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:49:06 +0100")

>> The problem with that is that it's hackish and ad-hoc.  It will
>> sometimes do the right thing, but other times it' not what's expected
>> and users will find it odd.
>
> Statistically speaking, it'll work on more cases than `!' used to,
> though.  I'm pretty sure.  And I think it's fine for a command like `!'
> to try to DWIM.

I was thinking of making it less-DWIMish and leave it in control of
the user.  IOW, rather than try to magically "do the right thing" for
files starting with `-`, allow the users to request explicitly absolute
file names (maybe with a prefix command or something like that) when
*they* see it's needed.

It won't fix the user's mistakes, but it will give a simpler semantics
on which powerusers can more easily rely.


        Stefan






  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-22  2:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-08 20:05 bug#10458: 24.0.92; ! in dired on a file starting with a hyphen Michael Heerdegen
2012-01-09  1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-09 17:27   ` Glenn Morris
2012-01-09 19:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-10  0:40       ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-09 22:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-10  7:04       ` Jan D.
2012-01-10  9:02       ` Glenn Morris
2012-01-10 14:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-10 17:11           ` Glenn Morris
2012-01-10 17:18             ` Glenn Morris
2012-01-10 20:03               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-10 21:45                 ` Jan Djärv
2022-02-20 13:50   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-20 14:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-20 14:10       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-20 14:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-20 14:31           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-20 14:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-21 13:46               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-20 15:14     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-21 13:49       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-22  1:32         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-02-22  1:33           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-22  2:51         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-02-22 13:29           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-28  3:02 ` Drew Adams

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