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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 3438@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com,
	"'T.V. Raman'" <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com>,
	'Chong Yidong' <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'ishikawa' <chiaki.ishikawa@ubin.jp>,
	ams@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org
Subject: bug#3438: please make line-move-visual nil
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:11:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvoct71zxc.fsf-monnier+emacs__31488.7950233699$1243913102$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BC1A0392D51547EE8B5FB84DB20E25C6@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:26:58 -0700")

> More typically (in formatted buffers), we want to reflect the use of newlines
> (they are positioned intentionally) and maintain the current column for line
> movement, but there is no single, privileged column (e.g. file name) that we
> want to constrain point to, as there is in Dired.

I don't know if it's typical, but for most of those kinds of buffers you
describe as "formatted", I think they should at least set truncate-lines.

> Each formatted buffer could individually define its own line-movement
> commands, which amounts to just binding `line-move-visual' to nil
> around a call to `next-line'.  But that would be a bit silly.
> Better to just let the variable be buffer-local.  And provide nil as
> the default value for most formatted buffers.

Any major mode is free to (set (make-local-variable 'line-move-visual) nil).
As of now, I don't think any mode bothers to do that.

> BTW, you didn't answer the questions about the poll.
> How's it coming along?  Where is it?

I can't think of any poll which would bring any satisfactory answer to
the discussion.


        Stefan





  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-01 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                 ` <jwvzlcsnkyy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]                   ` <5f0ff9220906010736paad9321td86fd52326ebe722@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <F412767261564B7894552DF3D4CEFD16@us.oracle.com>
2009-06-01 17:56                       ` bug#3438: please make line-move-visual nil Chong Yidong
     [not found]                       ` <87oct7sur8.fsf@cyd.mit.edu>
2009-06-01 18:26                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                         ` <BC1A0392D51547EE8B5FB84DB20E25C6@us.oracle.com>
2009-06-01 20:11                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <jwvoct71zxc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-01 21:00                             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                             ` <31703F2EAE7D4CAF8E671B0C18916D01@us.oracle.com>
2009-06-01 21:25                               ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]                               ` <e01d8a50906011425n486b00ack12eaf32dc4ea1e34@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-01 21:33                                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                 ` <2E369A57A535414C8193711D4740ACC5@us.oracle.com>
2009-06-01 21:56                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-01 22:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                               ` <jwvd49nzizc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-01 22:52                                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                 ` <C42F1A4E73DE4300868812F6A736BEBC@us.oracle.com>
2009-06-01 23:12                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-01 23:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                   ` <E1MBGhJ-00032F-LR@fencepost.gnu.org>
2009-06-01 23:23                                     ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                     ` <62BF90AF958B432AAEAC88ED045DE035@us.oracle.com>
2009-06-02 15:59                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                   ` <e01d8a50906011612i13b27445k8155fb63ac3fd682@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-01 23:57                                     ` Drew Adams
2009-06-12 17:16                                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                 ` <8982B2CF70794451BE7693392E14AA2A@us.oracle.com>
2009-06-12 21:45                                   ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                                   ` <jwvvdn1dt40.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-13  0:19                                     ` Drew Adams

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