From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20191.12232.556454.551166@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20191.48632.665251.448872@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323290667 3527 80.91.229.12 (7 Dec 2011 20:44:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 20:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2975@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Roland Winkler" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 07 21:44:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOLl-0000pw-9Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 21:44:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43290 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOLk-0006KV-TR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:44:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44995) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOLi-0006KD-8S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:44:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOLh-0007sU-1x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:44:18 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57227) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOLg-0007sQ-VS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:44:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOMP-0005XJ-TL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:45:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 20:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2975 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2975-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2975.132329068021237 (code B ref 2975); Wed, 07 Dec 2011 20:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2975) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2011 20:44:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOM3-0005WT-C6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:44:40 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYOM1-0005WM-5y for 2975@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:44:38 -0500 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pB7Khovh031107; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:43:51 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BB620B42C1; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:43:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20191.48632.665251.448872@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:26:48 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4064=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4064> : streams <708656> : uri <1023584> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:45:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54793 Archived-At: > Thanks...Now I am yet more confused. I thought I look into > emacs.texi because I assumed that this info manual has been updated > continuously in recent years and this updating has been done with > the editor of my choice which is emacs. So what have people done who > contributed to the emacs info manual to work around these > difficulties? Which parts of emacs' texinfo support do what they are > supposed to do and which parts seem to be malfunctioning? I'm pretty sure texinfo-master-menu is not used for that, indeed. I think "update all menus" is the more common helper command. IIRC it also suffered from problems where it adds data to "Node"s which should better not be added at all, so makeinfo can auto-fill it for you (and makeinfo actually complains about what texinfo-master-menu puts there). Maybe the better course here is to deprecate it, seeing how noone seems interested in fixing it (if it can be fixed). Stefan