From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 11094@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#11094: Wrong cursor positioning with display+invisible
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 09:09:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvobra1es3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83wr5yj0yl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2012 05:56:34 +0300")
>> > For some value of "correctly". E.g., position the cursor over the
>> > ".", which is the first file name in the archive, and type "C-x =".
>> > You will see "63", which is a lie: the actual value of point is 111.
>> I don't think it's a lie because that text is preceded by invisible
>> text, so while "." is at 111, point is indeed at 63 (and that's just
>> because of adjust_point_for_property, so we can get point to stay at
>> 111 by being more careful with text property's stickiness).
> Having point report X when it is position on a character whose
> position is Y, or jump when you move it from one character of a file
> name to the next violates the principle of least astonishment, IMO.
That's an inevitable consequence of using `invisible'. So yes, I agree
that `invisible' should be used with great care, but there is no bug in
this particular part (the underlying problem is that the block cursor is
drawn *on* characters whereas point is *between* characters).
>> the cursor is drawn at the right place. I think this is the core of the
>> problem that's handled differently from Emacs-23.
>> [ IIUC you've gotten to the same conclusion. ]
> While there could be more than one way to cut this cake, I still think
> we should encourage Lips programmers to use the `cursor' property in
> these situations.
Hmm... I haven't actually tried to use the `cursor' property, but I'm
not sure it would help when point is actually outside of the text area
covered by any of the display strings.
> Should we close this bug, then?
We might as well keep it open until the problem is actually solved.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-02 13:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-26 4:07 bug#11094: Wrong cursor positioning with display+invisible Stefan Monnier
2012-03-31 9:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-02 1:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-02 2:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-02 13:09 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-04-02 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-02 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-02 21:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-03 13:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-07 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-09 2:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-09 8:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-09 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
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