From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:50:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <837ghjjqvj.fsf@gnu.org> <831u7rjoyl.fsf@gnu.org> <83y59zi84y.fsf@gnu.org> <871u7rxns8.fsf@yandex.ru> <83vc53i7cv.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppvai7au.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372175493 23166 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2013 15:51:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lunaryorn@gmail.com, lekktu@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, 14704@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 25 17:51:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVWl-0001MS-Q9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:51:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVWl-0007Me-9i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:51:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVWN-0006sM-TX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:51:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVWJ-0005Hz-35 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46331) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVWI-0005Hn-Sk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVWI-00075f-E6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14704 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14704-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14704.137217543227195 (code B ref 14704); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2013 15:50:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40647 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVVo-00074Z-HX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:50:32 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:64523) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrVVm-00074M-M4 for 14704@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:50:31 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhEKABK/CFFMCppA/2dsb2JhbABEuzWCVwQDexdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgeBrEfkA6RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: AhEKABK/CFFMCppA/2dsb2JhbABEuzWCVwQDexdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgeBrEfkA6RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="17128043" Original-Received: from 76-10-154-64.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.154.64]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 25 Jun 2013 11:50:19 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4A5296A3D0; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:50:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83ppvai7au.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:39:05 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75570 Archived-At: >> For the tty case at least we could image just use the sequence of bytes >> sent to the tty. > True, but even TTY output is to some extent dependent on the terminal > capabilities, so parsing such byte streams is not entirely trivial. Definitely not trivial, but we can control the terminal capabilities (e.g. using a hand-crafted terminfo file). Stefan