* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
@ 2013-08-09 10:10 Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 19:02 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Devon Sean McCullough @ 2013-08-09 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 15058
emacs -Q /ftp@ftp.gnu.org:
Should display the FTP.GNU.ORG: directory but instead bombs -
for details, look in the *ftp ftp@ftp.gnu.org* buffer.
In GNU Emacs 24.3.2 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0, NS apple-appkit-1038.36)
of 2013-07-09 on Apple-Computers-MacBook-Air.local
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038
Configured using:
`configure '--with-ns' 'CC=gcc''
Important settings:
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
Minor modes in effect:
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
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tool-bar-mode: t
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blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
M-x r e p o r t SPC e m SPC SPC <return>
Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
Opening FTP connection to ftp.gnu.org...done
Logging in as user ftp@ftp.gnu.org...done
Getting PWD... [2 times]
Warning! Unable to get home directory
Getting PWD... [2 times]
byte-code: Unable to obtain CWD
Load-path shadows:
None found.
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 10:10 bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken Devon Sean McCullough
@ 2013-08-09 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <C1CBBAA1-17C8-4B9C-AE7F-4DAE0A1D3963@jovi.net>
2013-08-09 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 19:02 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-08-09 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devon Sean McCullough; +Cc: 15058
> From: Devon Sean McCullough <Emacs-Hacker2013@jovi.net>
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 18:10:49 +0800
>
> emacs -Q /ftp@ftp.gnu.org:
>
> Should display the FTP.GNU.ORG: directory but instead bombs -
> for details, look in the *ftp ftp@ftp.gnu.org* buffer.
Try this instead:
emacs -Q /ftp:ftp@ftp.gnu.org:
IOW, you must have the METHOD: part before the URL.
I think this is a cockpit error, since the Emacs User Manual clearly
describes the correct syntax.
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
[not found] ` <C1CBBAA1-17C8-4B9C-AE7F-4DAE0A1D3963@jovi.net>
@ 2013-08-09 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 15:53 ` Glenn Morris
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-08-09 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devon Sean McCullough; +Cc: 15058
> From: Devon Sean McCullough <Emacs-Hacker2013@jovi.net>
> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:03:40 +0800
>
> Really? When was /HOST: syntax deprecated?
It wasn't.
Actually, I take back what I wrote earlier: your original example
works fine for me, even without the explicit "ftp:".
Maybe it's a Darwin thing or something specific to your system setup.
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2013-08-09 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2013-08-09 15:53 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-09 17:15 ` Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 18:04 ` Devon Sean McCullough
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-08-09 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devon Sean McCullough, 15058
>> From: Devon Sean McCullough <Emacs-Hacker2013@jovi.net>
>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:03:40 +0800
>>
>> Really? When was /HOST: syntax deprecated?
That's not what you used. You used /METHOD@HOST:, which is not
documented to work.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Remote-Files.html
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2013-08-09 15:53 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-08-09 17:15 ` Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Devon Sean McCullough @ 2013-08-09 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 15058
On 2013 Aug 9, at 11:53 PM, Glenn Morris wrote:
> You used /METHOD@HOST:, which is not documented to work.
That's /USER@HOST: where USER is ftp, HOST is ftp.gnu.org
and FILENAME is empty to specify the landing page////dir
configured by the server administrator,
a useful and important capability.
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Remote-Files.html
... /USER@HOST:FILENAME ...
1. If the host name starts with `ftp.' (with dot), Emacs uses FTP.
2. If the user name is `ftp' or `anonymous', Emacs uses FTP.
Peace
--Devon
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 15:53 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-09 17:15 ` Devon Sean McCullough
@ 2013-08-09 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 18:08 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-08-09 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Emacs-Hacker2013, 15058
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 11:53:42 -0400
>
>
> >> From: Devon Sean McCullough <Emacs-Hacker2013@jovi.net>
> >> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:03:40 +0800
> >>
> >> Really? When was /HOST: syntax deprecated?
>
> That's not what you used. You used /METHOD@HOST:, which is not
> documented to work.
>
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Remote-Files.html
It's /user@host:, and it works fine for me on fencepost.gnu.org.
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 15:53 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-08-09 18:04 ` Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 20:43 ` Devon Sean McCullough
3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Devon Sean McCullough @ 2013-08-09 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 15058
On 2013 Aug 9, at 9:45 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Maybe it's a Darwin thing or something specific to your system setup.
Yes, the bug is OS specific:
CentOS 21.4.1 ok
Debian 6.0.7 BUG
MacOS 10.6.8 BUG
Ubuntu 10.04 ok
Peace
--Devon
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 15:53 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-09 18:04 ` Devon Sean McCullough
@ 2013-08-09 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 20:43 ` Devon Sean McCullough
3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-08-09 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Devon Sean McCullough, 15058
>> Really? When was /HOST: syntax deprecated?
> It wasn't.
We slightly changed the way it works because of the ambiguity between
/HOST: and /METHOD:, so IIRC /HOST: still works fine, but only if HOST
is not also a valid METHOD. So you need "/ftp:ftp" in order to connect
to a host named "ftp".
Stefan
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2013-08-09 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-08-09 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-08-09 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Emacs-Hacker2013, 15058
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Devon Sean McCullough <Emacs-Hacker2013@jovi.net>, 15058@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:23:22 -0400
>
> >> Really? When was /HOST: syntax deprecated?
> > It wasn't.
>
> We slightly changed the way it works because of the ambiguity between
> /HOST: and /METHOD:, so IIRC /HOST: still works fine, but only if HOST
> is not also a valid METHOD. So you need "/ftp:ftp" in order to connect
> to a host named "ftp".
Again, on fencepost, I don't need the METHOD.
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2013-08-09 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-08-09 20:43 ` Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 23:17 ` Glenn Morris
` (2 more replies)
3 siblings, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Devon Sean McCullough @ 2013-08-09 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 15058
On 2013 Aug 9, at 9:45 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Maybe it's a Darwin thing or something specific to your system setup.
The bug seems to depend on whether /usr/bin/ftp
re-writes certain server responses ...
MacOS and Debian BUG: (ange-ftp-get-pwd "ftp.gnu.org" "ftp") ==> (nil . "Remote directory: /")
CentOS and Ubuntu OK: (ange-ftp-get-pwd "ftp.gnu.org" "ftp") ==> (t . "257 \"/\"")
... apparently emacs is blind to the re-written PWD reply.
Peace
--Devon
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2013-08-09 20:43 ` Devon Sean McCullough
@ 2013-08-09 23:17 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-09 23:45 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-10 4:14 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-08-09 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 15058
I think we'd have wasted less time on this had you said "bug#8346
still exists" from the start.
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 20:43 ` Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 23:17 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-08-09 23:45 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-10 8:41 ` Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-10 4:14 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-08-09 23:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devon Sean McCullough; +Cc: 15058
Maybe this fixes it
*** lisp/net/ange-ftp.el 2013-08-09 21:22:44 +0000
--- lisp/net/ange-ftp.el 2013-08-09 23:44:10 +0000
***************
*** 700,706 ****
"Regular expression matching the start of a multiline FTP reply.")
(defvar ange-ftp-good-msgs
! "^220 \\|^230 \\|^226 \\|^25. \\|^221 \\|^200 \\|^[Hh]ash mark"
"Regular expression matching FTP \"success\" messages.")
;; CMS and the odd VMS machine say 200 Port rather than 200 PORT.
--- 700,706 ----
"Regular expression matching the start of a multiline FTP reply.")
(defvar ange-ftp-good-msgs
! "^220 \\|^230 \\|^226 \\|^25. \\|^221 \\|^200 \\|^[Hh]ash mark\\|Remote directory"
"Regular expression matching FTP \"success\" messages.")
;; CMS and the odd VMS machine say 200 Port rather than 200 PORT.
***************
*** 3021,3026 ****
--- 3021,3027 ----
(if (car result)
(save-match-data
(and (or (string-match "\"\\([^\"]*\\)\"" line)
+ (string-match "Remote directory: \\(.*\\)" line)
(string-match " \\([^ ]+\\) " line)) ; stone-age VMS servers!
(setq dir (match-string 1 line)))))
(cons dir line)))
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2013-08-09 23:45 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-08-10 8:41 ` Devon Sean McCullough
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From: Devon Sean McCullough @ 2013-08-10 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 15058
Glenn,
Thanks for the patch - this nearly identical one works great on MacOS.
Peace
--Devon
P.S. I added four characters (two carets, a colon and a space)
--- ange-ftp.el.~0~ 2013-02-11 09:13:09.000000000 +0800
+++ ange-ftp.el 2013-08-10 15:50:44.000000000 +0800
@@ -700,7 +700,7 @@
"Regular expression matching the start of a multiline FTP reply.")
(defvar ange-ftp-good-msgs
- "^220 \\|^230 \\|^226 \\|^25. \\|^221 \\|^200 \\|^[Hh]ash mark"
+ "^220 \\|^230 \\|^226 \\|^25. \\|^221 \\|^200 \\|^[Hh]ash mark\\|^Remote directory: "
"Regular expression matching FTP \"success\" messages.")
;; CMS and the odd VMS machine say 200 Port rather than 200 PORT.
@@ -3021,6 +3021,7 @@
(if (car result)
(save-match-data
(and (or (string-match "\"\\([^\"]*\\)\"" line)
+ (string-match "^Remote directory: \\(.*\\)" line)
(string-match " \\([^ ]+\\) " line)) ; stone-age VMS servers!
(setq dir (match-string 1 line)))))
(cons dir line)))
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 20:43 ` Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 23:17 ` Glenn Morris
2013-08-09 23:45 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-08-10 4:14 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2013-08-10 4:27 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Jenkner @ 2013-08-10 4:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devon Sean McCullough; +Cc: 15058
On Fri, Aug 09 2013, Devon Sean McCullough wrote:
> On 2013 Aug 9, at 9:45 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Maybe it's a Darwin thing or something specific to your system setup.
>
> The bug seems to depend on whether /usr/bin/ftp
> re-writes certain server responses ...
>
> MacOS and Debian BUG: (ange-ftp-get-pwd "ftp.gnu.org" "ftp") ==> (nil . "Remote directory: /")
If this is tnftp (aka lukemftp[1]) then there's actually no server
response to report here because the client reuses a cached value and
doesn't send anything to the server at this point. The value comes from
automatically sending a `pwd' after logging in. You can set the `debug'
flag to observe this.
[1] ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/tnftp/tnftp-20091122.tar.gz
> CentOS and Ubuntu OK: (ange-ftp-get-pwd "ftp.gnu.org" "ftp") ==> (t . "257 \"/\"")
Wolfgang
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <C1CBBAA1-17C8-4B9C-AE7F-4DAE0A1D3963@jovi.net>
@ 2013-08-09 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-08-09 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Devon Sean McCullough, 15058
>> emacs -Q /ftp@ftp.gnu.org:
> Try this instead:
> emacs -Q /ftp:ftp@ftp.gnu.org:
I guess Tramp could try and output a useful error message to help the
user fix his file name.
Stefan
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* bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken
2013-08-09 10:10 bug#15058: 24.3; ftp is still broken Devon Sean McCullough
2013-08-09 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2013-08-09 19:02 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-08-09 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devon Sean McCullough; +Cc: 15058
Devon Sean McCullough wrote:
> emacs -Q /ftp@ftp.gnu.org:
>
> Should display the FTP.GNU.ORG: directory but instead bombs -
What do you actually mean by "it bombs"?
> for details, look in the *ftp ftp@ftp.gnu.org* buffer.
Please show us the contents, since no-one else seems to be able to
reproduce this.
> Opening FTP connection to ftp.gnu.org...done
> Logging in as user ftp@ftp.gnu.org...done
> Getting PWD... [2 times]
> Warning! Unable to get home directory
What's going on here?
Seems to resemble
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=1972
Something to do with active/passive ftp?
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