From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18494: 24.4.50; defclass creates undocumented *-list-p function Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:08:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a95xvfuy.fsf@tromey.com> <87bnqavaju.fsf@engster.org> <541DDB56.1020000@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411254576 6398 80.91.229.3 (20 Sep 2014 23:09:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18494@debbugs.gnu.org, Tom Tromey , David Engster , Eric Ludlam To: Eric Ludlam Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 21 01:09:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTmS-0007IU-8f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 01:09:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36304 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTmP-000821-HB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:09:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54866) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTmF-00081w-IN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:09:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTm7-0006yh-Th for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:09:15 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTm7-0006yT-Qu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTm2-0001Ft-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18494 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18494-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18494.14112545204796 (code B ref 18494); Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2014 23:08:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46892 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTlf-0001FH-FE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:08:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:8496) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVTlc-0001F5-9t for 18494@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:08:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BJRilDeBaoNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BJRilDeBaoNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="90418393" Original-Received: from 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.145.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 20 Sep 2014 19:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3B7CC62F79; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:08:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <541DDB56.1020000@gmail.com> (Eric Ludlam's message of "Sat, 20 Sep 2014 15:53:58 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93562 Archived-At: > Technically, I could hand write a few of those predicates for the EDE > loader, but I thought it would be generally useful, especially if other folk > want to save their objects. I'm not sure how widely used it is outside of > EDE, semanticdb, and cogre which all have save files. I certainly think it > should be documented if consensus is that it stays. Perhaps an extra option > for the defclass to add extra predicates along > with :method-invocation-order. My natural reaction is to say that those *-list-p predicates shouldn't be automatically created, but could someone explain to me in detail how/where they're used? E.g. I hear it's used for types, but can't we use a type like (list foo) instead of foo-list (or maybe (cl-every foo-p) instead of foo-list-p)? Stefan