From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:56:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <005301c96b95$547ae890$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <495CE033.70808@gmx.at> <008801c96c57$dcbd5540$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <495DC7A2.6000106@gmx.at> <495F3A4B.2070802@gmx.at> <4961BD57.9020202@gmx.at> <4967A764.2070809@gmx.at> <496872A2.2040404@gmx.at> <4969D690.5090004@gmx.at> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231687482 11448 80.91.229.12 (11 Jan 2009 15:24:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 11 16:25:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LM2Be-0003R2-Mt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:25:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34436 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LM2AO-0006q5-Bg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:23:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LM29y-0006Os-Ph for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LM29w-0006LU-He for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:23:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55621 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LM29v-0006Kl-T9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:41361) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LM29v-0007iI-C2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0BFNP3s009672; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:23:25 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0BF560e005034; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:05:06 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:05:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.12316857952848 (code B ref 1754); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:05:06 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Jan 2009 14:56:35 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0BEuRfR002832 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:56:28 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApAFAFKXaUnO+LIy/2dsb2JhbACBbM5VhW+BbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,248,1231131600"; d="scan'208";a="32141185" Original-Received: from 206-248-178-50.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.178.50]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 11 Jan 2009 09:56:21 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 38B42B424B; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:56:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4969D690.5090004@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:22:56 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:23:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23997 Archived-At: >>>>> "martin" == martin rudalics writes: >> It's not a question of optimization but of semantics. >> It seems cleaner to only add the setting to default-frame-alist if >> that's possible. Which is why I asked for a reason wy it's also added >> to initial-frame-alist even tho it doesn't seem necessary. > When the .emacs reader encounters the form > (modify-all-frames-parameters (list (cons 'tool-bar-lines 1))) > (setq default-frame-alist > (append (list (cons 'tool-bar-lines 0)) > default-frame-alist)) The above two forms don't mention anything special about the initial-frame, so I think that it's a bug if Emacs treats the initial frame differently in this case. Stefan