From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9875: 24.0.90; Confusing description of the "window tree" in ELisp manual Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:21:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83zkgnbo50.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319667686 8845 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2011 22:21:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9875@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 27 00:21:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBqb-0008Km-6M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:21:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36905 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBqa-0005AV-Nh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBqY-00059x-9F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:21:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBqX-0001HG-4T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:21:18 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBqX-0001HC-2w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBsD-0001l4-P6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:23:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9875 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9875-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9875.13196677766746 (code B ref 9875); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:23:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9875) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2011 22:22:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBs7-0001kk-24 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:22:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJBs4-0001kT-7M for 9875@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:22:53 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak0JAEOHqE5MCrTo/2dsb2JhbABCqD+BD4EGgW4BAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIE7VBiGoEoUCERQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,411,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="144656438" Original-Received: from 76-10-180-232.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.180.232]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 26 Oct 2011 18:21:01 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5B6D959011; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:21:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83zkgnbo50.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:31:39 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:23:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:53180 Archived-At: >> I think the first step is to choose a single name for those, and then >> use it systematically. I think we should simply call "window" the >> traditional "real" "live" "leaf" windows that display a buffer. As for >> the other ones, we could go for "internal window", but I think "parent >> window" is better, tho maybe someone has a better idea ("compound >> window", "super window", ... ?) > How about "window tree node" or just "node"? Just "node" is much too vague for my taste. "Window tree node" is a bit better but doesn't make it clear it's not a leaf and is a window object. For that reason I prefer "window parent". > That's what they are, right? They aren't just "node" (i.e. some intermediate element pointing to others), they have most properties of windows, such as sizes and positions (tho they don't display any buffer). Stefan