From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:23:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871t7d4ion.fsf@gmx.de> <87oaagi128.fsf@gmx.de> <877fh0hovs.fsf@gmx.de> <756f60a7-bdf9-a806-b9d6-dbf17f0ebaab@yandex.ru> <87y49gg9sm.fsf@gmx.de> <845ef936-dec1-eac9-db2a-f2bb25f3a830@yandex.ru> <87egb8faxv.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj3eks.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj4jvp.fsf@gmx.de> <871t7650th.fsf@gmx.de> <87io0i32sq.fsf@gmx.de> <871t752nme.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458487466 25932 80.91.229.3 (20 Mar 2016 15:24:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23006@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 16:24:15 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfD7-0008JI-OX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 16:24:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53301 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfD7-00031h-4f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfD3-00030q-Tp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfD0-000342-LZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:24:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfD0-00033y-Hi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfD0-0004U5-Av for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23006 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23006-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23006.145848739617182 (code B ref 23006); Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2016 15:23:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55657 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfCG-0004T4-LK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:33042) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahfCE-0004Sw-US for 23006@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id u2KFNBxi015127; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:23:12 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7A946AE695; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 11:23:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <871t752nme.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2016 16:08:25 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5616=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <5616> : inlines <4536> : streams <1606021> : uri <2170626> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115138 Archived-At: >> Can you explain *your* understanding of `non-essential', then? >> What does this var mean, for you? > For Tramp, it is an indication that file name completion is in > progress. Huh? Why would it need such a variable for that, instead of getting this info from the fact that you're replying to `file-name-all-completions' (or `file-name-completion') rather than to some other request? And why would it be called `non-essential' instead of `in-completion'? >> And how do you relate that to its documented meaning in its docstring? > "... it can be used to prevent Tramp from prompting the > user for a password That's an example. > when we are simply scanning a set of files in the background or > displaying possible completions before the user even asked for it." That's the particular justification for not prompting the user. > If the user has typed "/ssh:host:tmp/ema", and she requests for > completion by typing TAB, the existence of the slash in the local file > name part is an indication that "the user even asked for it" (completion > on "host"). The fact that she hit TAB is enough indication. But in icomplete and company, we request completion data even though the user hasn't hit anything like TAB. Stefan