From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65864: [PATCH] Add option to save a buffer without running save hooks Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83h6o0ri8c.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40042"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 65864@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii To: Daniel =?UTF-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 12 16:25:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qg4KP-000A8m-O3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 16:25:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg2zn-0002u2-Or; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg2zm-0002qE-OR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:58 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qg2zm-000727-9T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qg2zq-00043j-I2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65864 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 65864-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65864.169452359415554 (code B ref 65864); Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65864) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2023 12:59:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qg2zi-00042o-4F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:11172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qg2zf-00042Z-I3 for 65864@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:53 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 60684100106; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:41 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1694523580; bh=0ivzoZ2mIfHKV6wKk9l10aPexcSR71ipaCKWSbdYtLc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=R2sV5KbYox6761iY+M5QVjTCmILHGB47qXCVnRIVyumI+B3bAIJzb9XkgCjfMPV/s AJBVrE8FpwM36vXkC1aEhwJMj81Y+WDJKQPMOFn33dCgT4xFU3a8eF1iQkeJsLhpeK vOa8KmqQy7x2DNjZmPTL4DcjedmE1Ev0fXtCidVQHrhjKJukG7zfB9PkxyyxcA8M09 wPCnBgs/vrJbmAf956HPDebpjfdlfqZkepePIuu4kXHjFvMBI2bLFihW0p+/xqFZEP oIyi57QqHpsXHfQ6kHVS9Y84vav6ytKjHI1t6/RybWfo0dXQF0r51qXDNLEh0anCmB TdRPnpyUYbEsw== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4C8511000A3; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [104.247.229.91]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EFBA1201DD; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:59:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: ("Daniel =?UTF-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?="'s message of "Tue, 12 Sep 2023 10:11:08 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:270183 Archived-At: > For example, I have `delete-trailing-whitespace' in my > `before-save-hook', but for a particular buffer I wanted to save it > without removing the trailing whitespace, because trailing whitespace > was syntactically meaningful in that case (the buffer contained some > Markdown-like source code). So you needed it for use by a human rather than for use by ELisp code? > I searched the Internet for some solutions and what I ended up doing is > C-x C-q (to make the buffer read-only), C-x C-s, and C-x C-q to make the > buffer writable again (from > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14913398/in-emacs-how-do-i-save-without-running-save-hooks). > It felt a bit like a "hack". It's a hack, indeed, and it could fail if the hook function was careful to let-bind `inhibit-read-only`. Personally I think I would have used `C-x h M-x write-region RET` (or fixed my config since clearly having this hook function active for this file is wrong). Stefan