From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#69739: 30.0.50; `type-of` is not precise enough Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:43:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86o7bjtuvj.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40448"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 69739@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 12 15:44:52 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rk3N6-000AL0-4o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:44:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rk3Mt-0002is-Mf; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:44:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rk3Mh-0002Ml-O6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:44:30 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rk3Mh-0000EF-G7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rk3NG-0002e4-07 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69739 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 69739-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B69739.171025466210073 (code B ref 69739); Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 69739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2024 14:44:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43350 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rk3Mc-0002cP-Hw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:44:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:24074) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rk3MM-0002bL-Ee for 69739@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:44:21 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 829BA83273; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:43:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1710254605; bh=ZULC6pr2HzIOxq3U9wZ4lqi6EKKTIEd4W14UPJEzneE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=iAX4MaEBGEl2vi5jurkCKXvNKNx2YjfJ+2++EGa9yQ35o1tzSIm3qe4VBLJRnPF1K DtnqvJmKvAKXuya8e9cBcAiRq6V/JZkiFOx5tLXHREo9Vr8wg05rPV/jwN7xORflV8 Au1xEmzH/13hcmTFTQXZFLey19CdtqZmV8fGAaZ6AUBSTb0wQWMtOc+hSAn9EvsTMa mSQxJZKurdUKcE4sTBTgggQTew/plG7+JxwA08HEv94OF803Ruz4m/1qhNXoV7Xh+t 4hIIyF1ybR6eKtvJVYU1CRkVC5C2IF6arPaeNGApHYWS1bQwTrJjSFJpJQ/I+d4XYs EZnuGL4g4zygw== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 28D12815B7; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (69-165-147-56.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.147.56]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 06319120735; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:43:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <86o7bjtuvj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:58:08 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:281521 Archived-At: >> Still, any change as suggested here would be an incompatible change, so >> there's risk it'll break some code out there (`type-of` is not used very >> often, but it *is* used). Another option is to introduce a new function >> which does the same as `type-of` but with changes like the ones above. >> (we could even decide to give it a `cl-generic-` prefix to discourage >> its use elsewhere so we can be more free to change its return value in >> the future). > I'd prefer a non-breaking change, if possible and reasonable. Suggestion for a good name for that new function? Should it make `type-of` obsolete? Stefan