From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:43:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> <552D20B6.8030005@yandex.ru> <83mw2abul3.fsf@gnu.org> <552D34BC.4090806@yandex.ru> <83h9sibt0q.fsf@gnu.org> <552D7796.2090109@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429047934 30589 80.91.229.3 (14 Apr 2015 21:45:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 14 23:45:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8dz-0007dc-SD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 23:45:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58015 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8dz-000886-45 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:45:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8do-0007un-OQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8dj-0008HK-PB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8dj-0008GT-Ls for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8di-0006tm-UB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:45:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20322 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20322-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20322.142904786826468 (code B ref 20322); Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20322) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2015 21:44:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8dA-0006sp-GP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:44:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:35607) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yi8d7-0006sg-Aw for 20322@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:44:26 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9819685F2A; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7A71E5B8C; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B1BA3B4122; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:43:59 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <552D7796.2090109@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 14 Apr 2015 23:24:54 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.6, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_CLICKON 0.22, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101536 Archived-At: > Here's some statistics: http://sideeffect.kr/popularconvention/#java (you > can click on the language names), sources at > https://github.com/outsideris/popularconvention This doesn't seem to talk about the same thing as what indent-tabs-mode does. I haven't looked at the code they use, but at least the example they give is: function foo() { return "bar"; } vs function foo() { // use tab for indentation return "bar"; } whereas indent-tabs-mode does not influence which column is used, only which chars are used to get there. Stefan