From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3035: 23.0.92; doc, terminology for graphics, display, terminal, etc. Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:09:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <001201c9bf7c$14221e40$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <83tz4mig8z.fsf@gnu.org> <002301c9bffa$93ba5040$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <83myaei6h4.fsf@gnu.org> <003301c9c041$f6ff1810$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <83fxg5j2uc.fsf@gnu.org> <000001c9c04b$3c46c180$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <83eivpiswn.fsf@gnu.org> <000201c9c06b$2a134770$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000301c9c0ab$e081bfb0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240165458 5044 80.91.229.12 (19 Apr 2009 18:24:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 19 20:25:37 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lvbht-00072n-Cv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:25:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42479 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LvbgU-0000O9-CP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LvbgP-0000Ll-Db for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LvbgJ-0000KZ-N4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38979 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LvbgJ-0000KW-H7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:23:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:42764) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LvbgJ-0005oR-5p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:23:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LvbgI-0005AR-5w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3JINpaQ007385; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:23:52 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3JIF36E004770; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:15:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3035 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3035-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3035.12401645863237 (code B ref 3035); Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:15:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3035) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Apr 2009 18:09:46 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3JI9gE2003223 for <3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:09:43 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqwFAGIF60lLd+yz/2dsb2JhbACBTspSg30GhSg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,213,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="37282748" Original-Received: from 75-119-236-179.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.236.179]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 19 Apr 2009 14:09:36 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BB6307EFD; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:09:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <000301c9c0ab$e081bfb0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:01:18 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:23:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27355 Archived-At: >> > IMO, using slant for a defined term in print is not too >> > good, and having the same appearance for defined terms >> > and emphasized text (unrelated) is also not too good. >> AFAIK, it's just common practice for definitions. The italics is used >> to emphasize the fact that this term is used with a specific meaning, >> which is being explained. > Nope. Not common practice. You're simply wrong. Maybe in the texts you read it's not common practice. But in the texts I read it is. > And that reasoning (defined term is important, so use > emphasis) is an invention. Not at all. A good example would be when you define what a /type/ is. Or what an /object/ is, in a programming book. If you don't emphasize correctly, the reader may end up not noticing/understanding exactly what term you're defining because that term already has meaning to the reader. Stefan