bug#4312: 23.1; save-excursion and goto-char fail

bug#4312: 23.1; save-excursion and goto-char fail

[RSridhar]

1. I have a lisp code which saves file buffer and does some manipulation
on the 
file in shell. subsequently it is reverted. However I have tried
save-excursion 
before saving file which did not restore the file position on reverting.
So I tr
ied setq point to some var and after reverting restore point with
goto-char. Thi
s also did not ork in restoring previous position although (point)
function did 
return the correct  value from the goto-char function in lisp. 

2. The file manipulated contains utf-8 chars. Every now and then octal
values di
splay as language text but most of the time only octal utf-8 chars are
displayed
. Also the devanaagari font that is displayed incorrectly when it is
displayed..
. The (itrans) short i is to be to the left of the consonant but gets
associated
 with the right consonant. 

3. re-search-forward function fails regular expression with octal code
   
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RSridhar <rsridar50@dataone.in>

bug#4312: 23.1; save-excursion and goto-char fail

[Stefan Monnier]

> 1. I have a lisp code which saves file buffer and does some
> manipulation on the file in shell.  subsequently it is reverted.
> However I have tried save-excursion before saving file which did not
> restore the file position on reverting.

save-excursion uses markers to remember the position.  But markers only
keep track of positions by keeping track of insertions/deletions and
adjusting the position accordingly.  When the changes happen outside
Emacs, this doesn't work too well, because Emacs sees your revert-buffer
as just one big delete&insert.

> So I tried setq point to some var and after reverting restore point
> with goto-char. Thi s also did not ork in restoring previous position
> although (point) function did return the correct  value from the
> goto-char function in lisp. 

This should "work" in the sense that it will keep point at the same
numerical position (same distance from the beginning of the file, when
counted in chars).  But it may very well not be pointing at the same
conceptual place in the file if you've added/removed content.

Maybe you should use bookmarks for that: bookmarks remember the position
together with the context (the text immediately before and after point),
so as to be able to find the "same spot" again, even if it moved in
the file.

> 3. re-search-forward function fails regular expression with octal code

IIRC, we already have a bug report about that (bug#3822).  But no
I haven't had time to look at it yet.
   

        Stefan

bug#4312: 23.1; save-excursion and goto-char fail

[Andreas Schwab]

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> 1. I have a lisp code which saves file buffer and does some
>> manipulation on the file in shell.  subsequently it is reverted.
>> However I have tried save-excursion before saving file which did not
>> restore the file position on reverting.
>
> save-excursion uses markers to remember the position.  But markers only
> keep track of positions by keeping track of insertions/deletions and
> adjusting the position accordingly.  When the changes happen outside
> Emacs, this doesn't work too well, because Emacs sees your revert-buffer
> as just one big delete&insert.

insert-file-contents tries to keep markers if possible, but that only
works if the marker points into the unchanged head or tail of the
replaced contents.

Andreas.

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bug#4313: bug#4312: 23.1; save-excursion and goto-char fail

[RSridhar]

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hi ..
This code I have been using for long and worked well in previous
version.
i.e, Emacs 22..... 
and since I loaded Fedora 11 and from their repository  emacs 23.1 
many of my lisp codes malfunction.

The loaded file contains utf-8 codes of devanagari ( indian root
language).
The simplest code that failed
(defun temay()
   "Temporary script to xltn itrans files and revert buffer"
   (interactive)
   (setq pos (point))
;;or (save excursion) 
   ;;(message "point set %d" pos)
   (save-restriction
     (widen)
     (save-buffer)
     (setq localvar ( concat "xltn -f " (buffer-file-name)))
     (shell-command localvar)
     (revert-buffer nil t nil))
   ;;(message "point set %d" pos)
   ;;(message "point returned %d" (goto-char pos))
   (goto-char pos)
)

-- 
RSridhar <rsridar50@dataone.in>


On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 18:33 +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> 
> >> 1. I have a lisp code which saves file buffer and does some
> >> manipulation on the file in shell.  subsequently it is reverted.
> >> However I have tried save-excursion before saving file which did not
> >> restore the file position on reverting.
> >
> > save-excursion uses markers to remember the position.  But markers only
> > keep track of positions by keeping track of insertions/deletions and
> > adjusting the position accordingly.  When the changes happen outside
> > Emacs, this doesn't work too well, because Emacs sees your revert-buffer
> > as just one big delete&insert.
> 
> insert-file-contents tries to keep markers if possible, but that only
> works if the marker points into the unchanged head or tail of the
> replaced contents.
> 
> Andreas.
> 

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bug#4314: acknowledged by developer (close 4312)

[RSridhar]

Re the bug 
that I was expecting some communication from you 
since it is closed by you. Could you please enlighten me on the status.
 
-- 
RSridhar <rsridar50@dataone.in>


On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 18:55 -0700, Emacs bug Tracking System wrote:
> Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>.

bug#4314: acknowledged by developer (close 4312)

[Chong Yidong]

RSridhar <rsridar50@dataone.in> writes:

> Re the bug that I was expecting some communication from you since it
> is closed by you. Could you please enlighten me on the status.

Did you not get the replies at

http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=4312

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bug#4313: 23.1;  save-excursion and goto-char fail
bug#4314: 23.1;  save-excursion and goto-char fail
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