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04 Jan 2014 00:18:15 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6005D6063D; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 00:18:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:07:32 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82890 Archived-At: >> I think we're pretty close to the point where =E2=80=98 and =E2=80=99 >> can be assumed to work "everywhere", but we're not quite there yet. >> But I'd hope that Debian builds would not follow that default and >> would tell make info to use things like =E2=80=98 and =E2=80=99 since th= ese chars >> should pretty much always work in a Debian system. > OK, attached is a patch to implement that suggestion, It doesn't quite follow the suggestion in the part about "so there's no need to specify it explicitly in the file". Isn't there a way other than modifying the file to tell Texinfo that the encoding is utf-8? > with the proviso that the default is to use curly quotes on > Debian-like systems where UTF-8 support seems ubiquitous, and to use > ASCII quotes elsewhere. By "Debian builds" I really meant "builds of Emacs made by the Debian team", not "builds made under Debian". > This should simplify configuration on Debianish systems. The 'locale' > command is used to check for UTF-8 support in English. I'd rather not try to be clever here. E.g. your test will end up using ASCII in non-English locales, even though they're just as likely to properly handle those Unicode chars. Just default to no. > This feels like a new feature, so I'm somewhat inclined to leave this > stuff alone in the trunk until after the feature freeze is over. Agreed. One more thing: the config option might like to use a more generic name like "--with-liberal-use-of-unicode". Stefan