From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: [External] : bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 10:28:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87blabpy54.fsf@gnus.org> <0d7924a2-d09f-e2d0-f0e7-6b5ee3a7a7f2@yandex.ru> <192e82f20f5deb690394@heytings.org> <87zgxmjkr9.fsf@gnus.org> <874kfs3585.fsf@gnus.org> <87v987z53l.fsf@gnus.org> <8fba78a42ee78011f182@heytings.org> <80b9aa43-9924-ae07-df60-87dde8c17378@yandex.ru> <8fba78a42eb8bd480d61@heytings.org> <3a17b49f-2a5c-42b6-4375-7544b67fd471@yandex.ru> <4edb1435264f2530594d@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12733"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Alan Third , "1305@debbugs.gnu.org" <1305@debbugs.gnu.org>, Michael Welsh Duggan , Stefan Kangas , "jasonspiro4@gmail.com" , Dmitry Gutov , Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 01 16:29:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcqcH-0003En-Tr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=PHeH63YKeset0kdmX+a9swkdulYMl0oAFFVBcsGIBxPCtXTgRtNJGP37zULhE5Ifi quYkjppxeBMm5pffkk+GzfWEB/x9pSdyr9YLFtJZtNUblyaSWh8pHXpZB4UsPe93s7 9itqcvGjlNpIrQRILIOb8OqDUTbgQvBeUWwe1wavVXsoZuhdHZ0NKzl6tPMUuWMbQ5 BgFvt3xaafXmMZpbhxankhhc34RbxJjG6NiFu/o47VfqUY/U/zjPCgY5IyhBy+sCuk sSCpkMowobEdh/tOntThXqGVyqSrggwac2VsPQYNCZDkjahVV9ZcT7VhJQ612ObOBM XUNv4Dq9jhh6w== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [108.161.125.61]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3490120187; Sat, 1 May 2021 10:28:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4edb1435264f2530594d@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sat, 01 May 2021 07:50:13 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205349 Archived-At: > You may have seen earlier in this thread that having to wait for the end of > the animation to see the error message is not considered optimal. That's the current behavior of `visual-bell` and I can't remember anyone complaining about it. So maybe the complaint you refer to was due to a slightly longer duration of the animation? [ When I saw that complaint, it rang quite right to me; I thought "yeah, of course the error message should be visible during the flash, just as is the case with the GNU/Linux visual-bell I use and love", and then I hit `C-g` and saw that the message only appears after the flashing ;-) ] Stefan