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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 14273@debbugs.gnu.org, Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com>
Subject: bug#14273: `write-region-inhibit-fsync' should default to t
Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 15:53:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvip2yplpb.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <517CD2AF.5070404@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:41:35 -0700")

> How about the attached patch instead?  It causes Emacs to use fsync by
> default only when operating interactively.

That looks OK for now.

> +	fsync can be a significant performance hit.  Often it doesn't
> +	suffice to make the file-save operation survive a crash.  For
> +	batch scripts, which are typically part of larger shell commands
> +	that don't fsync other files, its effect on performance can be
> +	significant so its utility is particularly questionable.
> +	For more on why fsync often fails to work on today's hardware, see:
> +	Zheng M, Tucek J, Qin F, Lillibridge M. Understanding the
> +	robustness of SSDs under power fault. 11th USENIX Conference on
> +	File and Storage Technologies, 2013 (FAST '13), 271-84
> +	http://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/fast13/fast13-final80.pdf
> +	For more on why fsync does not suffice even if it works properly, see:
> +	Roche X. Necessary step(s) to synchronize filename operations on disk.
> +	Austin Group Defect 672, 2013-03-19
> +	http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=672
> +	* cmdargs.texi (Initial Options):
> +	* files.texi (Customize Save): Document this.

But this longish text does not belong in the commitlog/changelog but in
the code.


        Stefan





  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-04 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-26  6:41 bug#14273: `write-region-inhibit-fsync' should default to t Paul Eggert
2013-04-26 13:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-26 13:50 ` Romain Francoise
2013-04-28  7:41   ` Paul Eggert
2013-04-28 10:32     ` Romain Francoise
2013-05-04 19:53     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-05-05  0:53       ` Paul Eggert

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