From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16155: 24.3.50; Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:31:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387460008 26122 80.91.229.3 (19 Dec 2013 13:33:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16155@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 19 14:33:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtdi6-0001cJ-9V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:32:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtdi5-0006qS-U3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtdhx-0006q0-2k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:32:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtdhr-0001yc-8t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:32:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtdhr-0001yV-5o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:32:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtdhq-0005tY-F0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:32:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16155 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16155-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16155.138745988722588 (code B ref 16155); Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16155) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2013 13:31:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VtdhF-0005sE-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:31:26 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:59368) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VtdhC-0005s3-2n for 16155@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:31:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.DIT.UMontreal.CA (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rBJDVILi025747; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:31:19 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4C139AE6B6; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:31:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2013 22:28:16 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4797=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4797> : inlines <336> : streams <1093430> : uri <1629184> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82215 Archived-At: [ How did you end up with gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org in the "To:" field? ] >>> Again, the question: why should `newline' indent when we've got the >>> specific command `newline-and-indent'? >> Because apparently most users like it. You don't, so turn it off in >> your ~/.emacs. > I cannot see how to achieve the result I want by tweaking my .emacs. What > I want is this: > o - with electric-indent-mode enabled. > o - with ?\n a member of electric-indent-chars. > o - `newline-and-indent' will indent both the current line and the new line. > o - `newline' will indent only the current line > Comments? Indeed, I don't think you can get the above behavior by "tweaking" your ~/.emacs. Is the above a new need, or is that a behavior you used to have, and if so how did you get it before? Stefan