From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:20:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <005301c96b95$547ae890$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <495CE033.70808@gmx.at> <008801c96c57$dcbd5540$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <495DC7A2.6000106@gmx.at> <495F3A4B.2070802@gmx.at> <4961BD57.9020202@gmx.at> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231195450 2222 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2009 22:44:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 23:45:21 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJyCD-00015B-Q9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:45:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43738 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJyAy-0005oD-Dd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:44:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJyAW-0005aL-H5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJyAT-0005Z5-9S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:43:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46799 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJyAT-0005Z2-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:43:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:48181) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJyAS-0004B2-Ih for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:43:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n05MhNTb022579; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:43:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n05MU7ec019353; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:30:07 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:30:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.123119405817789 (code B ref 1754); Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:30:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Jan 2009 22:20:58 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n05MKtWT017782 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:20:56 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArMEACgWYknO+JnM/2dsb2JhbACBbMwfhXKBaQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,334,1228107600"; d="scan'208";a="31825762" Original-Received: from 206-248-153-204.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.153.204]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2009 17:20:49 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7150684D0; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:20:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4961BD57.9020202@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:57:11 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:43:31 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23804 Archived-At: >>> If you mean that `modify-all-frames-parameters' should not change >>> `initial-frame-alist' because the "right" value will be eventually found >>> when scanning `default-frame-alist', you're maybe right. >> >> Yes, I think that's what I mean. >> >>> OTOH a user may have set `initial-frame-alist' to contain >>> a tool-bar-lines entry and wants to explicitly turn off >>> `tool-bar-mode' for the initial frame. Consider Drew's example with >>> "initial" replacing "default". >> >> But modify-all-frames-parameters beings by removing any such setting in >> initial-frame-alist anyway, so it seems this case still doesn't justify >> adding the setting to initial-frame-alist. > On the one hand you mean that `modify-all-frames-parameters' should not > change `initial-frame-alist' on the other you mean it should remove such > setting in `initial-frame-alist' anyway? You leave me confused. No, I only said that it shouldn't *set* the value in initial-frame-alist. Of course, it needs to remove any previous setting in order for the setting in default-frame-alist not to be overridden. Stefan