From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11999: 24.1.50; New Info file suffix ".info" breaks `Info-find-node-2' Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:50:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <30361DAB51FE4AC487EBA7C11AACB36C@us.oracle.com> <831uk688pk.fsf@gnu.org> <35D365A3D0D0487CB7928FB2A672541D@us.oracle.com> <83sjcl7b5w.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342950700 29724 80.91.229.3 (22 Jul 2012 09:51:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11999@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 22 11:51:40 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sssp8-0007NG-EM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:51:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40414 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sssp7-0004E5-QK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59647) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sssp5-0004Do-SR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:51:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sssp4-0008CT-S7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:51:35 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47357) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sssp4-0008CP-Ob for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:51:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SssvJ-0002ke-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:58:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11999 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11999-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11999.134295102310511 (code B ref 11999); Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11999) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jul 2012 09:57:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SssuN-0002jU-4s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:54369) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SssuK-0002j6-RP for 11999@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q6M9oUnD027408; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:50:31 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 98CDFAE17C; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:50:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83sjcl7b5w.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:47:55 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4286=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4286> : streams <788659> : uri <1171816> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:62267 Archived-At: > The doc string IMO does not tell enough, and there's no other > documentation about user-error, neither in the ELisp manual nor in > NEWS (which only mentions its existence). Can you be specific about what additional info you need? > Stefan, could you perhaps provide some insight? What is a "pilot > error" in this context, A error of the user rather than of the author of the code. > and how should Lisp programs use this new facility to (supposedly) > provide better diagnostics and/or better error handling? user-error is just a standard "debug-ignored-error". So instead of using error plus adding the text of the error to debug-ignored-errors, you can just user user-error. If Drew gets a user-error that drops him in the debugger, it's because he removed` user-error' from debug-ignored-errors. >> An index lookup that finds no hit is NOT "expected to be the result of an >> incorrect manipulation on the part of the user, rather than the result of an >> actual problem." By "actual problem", I meant "a bug in the code", i.e. a problem that can be fixed by correcting the code. Stefan