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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: 32544@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Subject: bug#32544: [ELPA] core packages need generated files
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:15:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh8jfnym8.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4dh8jfo090.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:31:07 -0400")

> Is the concern privilege escalation in build recipes in malicious elpa
> packages?

Yes.

> But couldn't the same package run the same bad code at package install
> time on the end user's machine, today and for as long as elpa.gnu.org
> has existed?

Yes.  Tho not only "at package install time", since that same bad code
can be run any time later when the package is activated or loaded...

> Ie, if we assume malicious code can get into elpa packages with no-one
> noticing, the whole system is already broken anyway?

Yup.

> But if you want to make the elpa system more secure one piece at a time,
> that's obviously no bad thing.

I think the reasons why I'm more worried about elpa.gnu.org than the
end-user's machines include:

- very little time between the moment we receive the commit-diffs by
  email and the moment the code is run.  So even if we notice the
  offending code on the spot, there's not much time to react.
- elpa.gnu.org is part of infrastructure that Emacs users trust when
  downloading GNU ELPA packages (e.g. it holds the PGP signing key), so
  a breach could affect all GNU ELPA users (especially if not
  noticed).


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-28  0:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-27 15:05 bug#32544: [ELPA] core packages need generated files Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 15:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-27 15:34   ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-27 15:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-28 15:17       ` Philippe Vaucher
2018-08-27 23:31   ` Glenn Morris
2018-08-28  0:15     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-08-28  2:13       ` Glenn Morris
2018-08-28 11:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 17:20   ` Stefan Monnier

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