From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49734: 28.0.50; define-obsolete-variable-alias Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <66274858-91ee-81fb-b157-d40c0fc0c676@jovi.net> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2651"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 49734@debbugs.gnu.org To: Devon Sean McCullough Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 27 17:48:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m8PK8-0000Vg-EV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:48:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46772 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m8PK7-00089b-Ce for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:48:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60990) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m8PIM-00052C-PV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m8PIM-0002EF-H8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m8PIM-0002bP-HN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49734 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49734-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49734.16274007869918 (code B ref 49734); Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49734) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2021 15:46:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53646 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m8PHm-0002Zt-CJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:60106) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m8PHk-0002Ze-JE for 49734@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 63D2C100221; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D86A21000C4; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1627400776; bh=mCWrnK8Qg+hriV9amAJLlTi8bUquPZs7/0blf+CsqPk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WFS39TXbgFcrQ6ARbuuNASQnO4Mk33+yuwWxfwHd2N8wioX+JsikY0uwXpiwlJLb3 I5bb/l+1+CHEtt+ezA5UANlBW/ebMQXOWwL7TymXI6QFxY0DBvypI6Z+/OfV82xYWM +o4ym053AzncgUar64fpVPZuFzwiMAMp78u/XVGaQOAwBxLxAj2cYH0LhJiU2rlRX/ ci0j9GZnKfqnkbNg1ia4tsrDx6gIgohCbJ6d4BfTl8thU4SxYtuCaEcoT8u7ZuIkwi 8s7asmsqx4mgjin0jUzS30Mm3w/vucvMTLxWGWaTsje8qwuvsx8gKnaygAZ6iPVKWO 11zqjnqOn7D5g== Original-Received: from milanesa (modemcable028.13-70-69.static.videotron.ca [69.70.13.28]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C9631201CF; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <66274858-91ee-81fb-b157-d40c0fc0c676@jovi.net> (Devon Sean McCullough's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:11:07 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:210794 Archived-At: Devon Sean McCullough [2021-07-25 14:11:07] wrote: > This change breaks existing libraries. > Better to deprecate old forms for a few years > rather than gratuitously and prematurely sow chaos. Fully, agreed. That's why the old form was made obsolete back in 2009, so it can now be removed non-prematurely and without sowing chaos ;-) Stefan PS: Here's what the NEWS says about it: ** The WHEN argument of 'make-obsolete' and related functions is mandatory. The use of those functions without a WHEN argument was marked obsolete back in Emacs 23.1. The affected functions are: 'make-obsolete', 'define-obsolete-function-alias', 'make-obsolete-variable', 'define-obsolete-variable-alias'.