From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#69528: 30.0.50; [BUG] transient.el is not a member of package--builtin-versions Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:38:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87edcrtegz.fsf@gmail.com> <87sf15rjyf.fsf@gmail.com> <8734t5yh49.fsf@posteo.net> <87edcp9p54.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <878qzypbav.fsf@posteo.net> <86ed9qyxnm.fsf@gnu.org> <871q5ffvs9.fsf@posteo.net> <87wmn7ebg5.fsf@posteo.net> <87mso3mc9p.fsf@breatheoutbreathe.in> <87o78hdcic.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13413"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com, Joseph Turner , 69528@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Andrea Corallo , Stefan Kangas To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 03 22:39:05 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sEESO-0003GD-S1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 22:39:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sEESA-0007vB-9Y; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:38:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sEES9-0007uu-D1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sEES9-0002zD-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEESL-0001r3-UC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 20:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69528 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 69528-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B69528.17174471227094 (code B ref 69528); Mon, 03 Jun 2024 20:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 69528) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2024 20:38:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55811 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEES2-0001qM-4N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:38:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:9211) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEERz-0001q4-JT for 69528@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:38:41 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3A5DE8089D; Mon, 3 Jun 2024 16:38:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1717447099; bh=WTnYuykTgvotyPX0gV7+e0lV4wtzrEuGMLyG7JZQmJ4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=CV4qRexDtxGwVZWwkDoy9TPecaOXa4ai2vGO26aOgvRdmtNklT5FgCtLAPikUzNn9 AXCIASkhPxzWLQCb5zp5zsDL20FTXJZnaXkLRfwKlV6SXzUvFGnUvxn8Mx0F5x1s6O 3J4v05+sRUawQerD8tsSYI6LJ7YPu2YMlwQtSAgXFtFvwnO3z05kEO7E6AjlImqBS4 hYYKzcRa31SihsV9yoY4JVSWaKsfToeCJb5xCHHLtBP/7JRffayWbj1dzGuFfo1FOu QHvkCzMbiOzzCgx1VXXGP2M1IGzLWwF2zPeAK88knCVTMXUk0S/iv4FrmnVtML72fW aJFuH8wW+QvwA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3214E805DE; Mon, 3 Jun 2024 16:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [24.140.236.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE2F71202AB; Mon, 3 Jun 2024 16:38:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87o78hdcic.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Mon, 03 Jun 2024 19:58:35 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:286492 Archived-At: >>> * lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp-mnt.el (lm-version): Prefer version in the >>> "Package-Version:" header. (Bug#69528) >> BTW, I think this is a backward-incompatible change. >> Whether we want `lm-version` to return the info from `Version:` or from >> `Package-Version:` depends on what we want to do with it. > When do we want lm-version to return Version and not Package-Version, > where a (lm-header "version") wouldn't serve as a more specific > replacement? I don't know, but if we never want to return the value of `Version:` when there's a `Package-Version:` then we don't need `Package-Version:` either (we should just replace the `Version:` field with the content of `Package-Version:`). IOW the very existence of `Package-Version:` is predicated on the desire to distinguish the two. Stefan