From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:10:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <005301c96b95$547ae890$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <495CE033.70808@gmx.at> <008801c96c57$dcbd5540$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <495DC7A2.6000106@gmx.at> <495F3A4B.2070802@gmx.at> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231129459 17018 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2009 04:24:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 04:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 05:25:29 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJh1n-0003Vt-V9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:25:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56070 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJh0Y-0007Sl-GR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:24:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJgzz-00078q-UW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:23:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJgzx-00077i-Ez for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60323 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJgzx-00077Y-2k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:23:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:37603) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJgzw-0008WC-IG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:23:28 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n054NNrw007533; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:23:23 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n054K7ew006674; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:20:07 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:20:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.12311286114672 (code B ref 1754); Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:20:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Jan 2009 04:10:11 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n054A7SJ003980 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:10:09 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEEAG8WYUlLd+Xf/2dsb2JhbACBbMdZhXKBaQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,330,1228107600"; d="scan'208";a="31785621" Original-Received: from 75-119-229-223.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.229.223]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2009 23:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A1A977020E; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:10:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <495F3A4B.2070802@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:13:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:23:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23776 Archived-At: >>> you also create a (tool-bar-lines . 0) entry for _both_ >>> `initial-frame-alist' and `default-frame-alist'. When you do >> Makes me wonder: why does it set it in initial-frame-alist since that >> alist is always combined with default-frame-alist? > If you mean that `modify-all-frames-parameters' should not change > `initial-frame-alist' because the "right" value will be eventually found > when scanning `default-frame-alist', you're maybe right. Yes, I think that's what I mean. > OTOH a user may have set `initial-frame-alist' to contain > a tool-bar-lines entry and wants to explicitly turn off > `tool-bar-mode' for the initial frame. Consider Drew's example with > "initial" replacing "default". But modify-all-frames-parameters beings by removing any such setting in initial-frame-alist anyway, so it seems this case still doesn't justify adding the setting to initial-frame-alist. Stefan