From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:34:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfwqxcnpr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lj0ptv9y.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:46:33 -0600")
> (case r
> ('secret "%p password for user %u, host %h: ")
> ('user "%p user name: ")
> ('host "%p host name for user %u: ")
> ('port "%p port for user %u and host %h: "))
> (format "Enter %s (%%u@%%h:%%p): " r)))
> Can you please propose specific replacements?
(case r
(secret "%p password for %u@%h: ")
(user "%p user name for %h: ")
(host "%p host name for user %u: ")
(port "%p port for %u@%h: "))
(format "Enter %s (%%u@%%h:%%p): " r)))
Notes:
- I added the host name to the user prompt (usually the user name
may be different in different hosts for the same user, so most such
prompts do include a hostname/realm).
- I left the user name in the host prompt, even though that sounds
backward to me (kind of like choosing the street number before the
street name).
- I removed the quotes which just made each of the branches be
acceptable when `r' has value `quote'.
> I'll put something in. This makes sense but is extra work for the
> auth-source API users, unfortunately.
I know, but the difference in user experience is enormous.
>>> I'm not sure about that one, I'm just using `read-passwd'.
SM> No, you misread: I'm talking about the prompt to save the password
SM> (i.e. the one with y/n/N/e/?), not the prompt to read the password.
> It uses:
> (while (not done)
> (message "%s" prompt)
> (setq k (read-char))
> ...)
And that leads to an absence of cursor in the minibuffer, even though
it's fundamentally a prompt. Why not copy y-or-n-p from subr.el as
a starting point?
If you can factor out the commonality, I'd be happy to provide
a "prompt-maker" function and then define y-or-n-p in terms of that
prompt-maker.
SM> Two things:
SM> 1- then make it look nice, like "Saved password for foo@bar into <file>".
SM> The current text really looks like debug output.
> All the output from auth-source starts with the function name.
I call that debug output and is not OK for normal messages.
> The line you mention can be put in the background in favor of the
> output you specified. But, again, auth-source does NOT just save
> passwords, and there's no guarantee that a host or a port were
> specified. So the message will look different.
The case where a user and host were specified is likely to be the main
one for most users, so it's worth handling it specially.
SM> 2- I just replied "n" before, so I did *not* want it saved (tho I do
SM> want it saved for the session), so it is not a rare event at all.
> OK, I'll show it only when the data is saved.
Good, thank you.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-16 1:54 bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Stefan Monnier
2011-02-24 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.0.1298509609.2066.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-24 12:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
[not found] ` <87y655bnr4.fsf@lifelogs.com>
2011-02-24 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-24 16:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-25 4:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
[not found] ` <87wrkobutr.fsf@gnus.org>
2011-02-25 11:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-25 11:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 12:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-25 17:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.17.1299357452.24947.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-07 18:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-07 23:10 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.2.1299548219.4111.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-08 16:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 19:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.12.1299620228.21372.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-08 21:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 3:04 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.4.1299640020.25099.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-09 11:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.4.1299703021.13037.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-09 21:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10 2:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12 3:43 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.1.1299902822.7270.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 18:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-14 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 18:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
[not found] <mailman.12.1297821996.25725.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-16 18:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
[not found] ` <874o836dfv.fsf@lifelogs.com>
2011-02-16 21:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-16 21:34 ` Michael Albinus
2011-02-16 22:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-18 0:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-18 2:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-18 8:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-18 20:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-18 22:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-22 21:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-18 23:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-22 22:46 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.4.1298416010.11499.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-22 23:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-16 21:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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