From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12884: 24.2.50; defun*: argument lists in documentation look terrible Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ip985dyf.fsf@web.de> <87wqxnkg4y.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352942914 2185 80.91.229.3 (15 Nov 2012 01:28:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12884-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 15 02:28:44 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoG3-0008CG-1l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:28:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44280 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoFs-00066p-V5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33589) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoFo-00066G-J3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoFl-0002ur-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:28 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:32899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoFl-0002ul-Db for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoGM-0004T0-UL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:29:03 -0500 Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 12884 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 12884@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, michael_heerdegen@web.de Original-Received: via spool by 12884-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D12884.135294293017149 (code D ref 12884); Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12884-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2012 01:28:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoG9-0004SX-R8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:34229) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TYoG7-0004SQ-O0 for 12884-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:48 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09sr+ZY/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgcBboJkEQDiEKacYFYgwc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="207642594" Original-Received: from 108-175-230-88.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.175.230.88]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 14 Nov 2012 20:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CD74F594C8; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:28:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87wqxnkg4y.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:51:09 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66939 Archived-At: >> > This looks terrible with all this #: and quote \, stuff. >> Binding print-quoted makes sense to improve the quote/backquote syntax. >> But I don't understand why we have those #: in there. I understand it's >> there to say the symbols are not interned, but I don't understand why >> they're not interned. > See `cl--make-usage-args'. It upcases the names of the arguments and > makes them a symbol again. The one who wrote that wanted that no new > symbols are interned, and so used `make-symbol'. Dunno if there's a > reason to do so. Ah, yes of course. I installed a patch similar to yours, except I didn't touch print-length and print-level, since I can't think of a good reason to favor nil for them. Stefan