From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13936: Default to UTF-8 for most Emacs source files Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:35:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871ubaa3i5.fsf@gnu.org> <515A324C.5070809@cs.ucla.edu> <83eherh321.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365035823 16858 80.91.229.3 (4 Apr 2013 00:37:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 00:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13936@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 04 02:37:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYBF-0006LV-8x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 02:37:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41052 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYAp-0005df-VX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:37:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYAl-0005da-CX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYAh-0001Y9-Oe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:36:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYAh-0001Y1-LP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYDh-0003H8-MH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:40:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 00:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13936 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 13936-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13936.136503594312509 (code B ref 13936); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 00:40:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13936) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2013 00:39:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60807 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYCk-0003Fh-Rx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:14286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNYCi-0003FJ-K5 for 13936@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:39:01 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLSu/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLSu/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="6433870" Original-Received: from 69-196-180-174.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.180.174]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Apr 2013 20:35:50 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 85A7066274; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:35:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83eherh321.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 03 Apr 2013 21:39:02 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73133 Archived-At: >> > I installed the most-recently-proposed patch >> > as trunk bzr 112210 and am marking this as done. >> BTW, I'd like to make it so that Elisp uses utf-8 by default. >> I welcome suggestions of patches that try to do that while minimizing >> the breakage that it might introduce. > I thought Handa-san was working on that, and he bumped into some > problem he needs to fix, before the infrastructure for this is ready. I don't think Handa's work is related. He's trying to improve the performance of Emacs when handling utf-8 files, whereas my request is for a change in behavior, regardless of performance. Stefan