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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, 19175@debbugs.gnu.org, mb@becroft.co.nz
Subject: bug#19175: 24.4; make-frame-on-display fails if emacs started with -nw
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:26:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfv8l8fz1.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83siclyjx0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:34:19 +0300")

>> How old is this bug?  IIUC it's pretty old, so there's no hurry to
>> fix it in 24.5 rather than in Emacs-25.  It's not fixing a regression.
> It is still a bad problem, and could very well raise its ugly head in
> other, more important situations.

It could, but it hasn't in the last many years that we've lived with it
without anyone noticing, so we can live with it a few more I think.
And the effect of the bug seems rather minor.
IOW the urgency is very low.

>> > Fixing the ChangeLog is easy, if
>> > that's the only problem: just swap the entries.
>> No, the problem is delaying the release by having another RC candidate.
> There's no need: we are making a simple change that doesn't require
> another RC, IMO.

I don't find it simple at all.  E.g. it doesn't seem obviously safe
(e.g. what if the X call ends up making a longjmp and hence skipping the
unblocking of sigio?  Seems highly unlikely, but we do make longjmps in
not-completely-different circumstances (e.g. to avoid killing Emacs when
an X connection dies), so I think that proving such a longjmp can't
happen would require a serious code analysis, i.e. pretty far from
"obviously safe").

Low urgency, non-zero risk, I'm surprised you'd even bother to lobby for
inclusion one day before the actual release.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-31 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-25  4:28 bug#19175: 24.4; make-frame-on-display fails if emacs started with -nw Mario Becroft
2014-11-25  4:34 ` bug#19175: Further information Mario Becroft
2015-03-23  6:12 ` bug#19175: 24.4; make-frame-on-display fails if emacs started with -nw Jan D.
2015-03-23  6:32   ` Mario Becroft
2015-03-23 17:34     ` Glenn Morris
2015-03-23 20:26       ` Mario Becroft
2015-03-24  1:44   ` Glenn Morris
2015-03-29  3:42     ` Mario Becroft
2015-03-29  8:45       ` Jan D.
2015-03-29  8:52         ` Mario Becroft
2015-03-29 15:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-29 17:09           ` Jan Djärv
2015-03-29 17:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-29 19:18               ` Jan D.
2015-03-29 21:17         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-30  6:32           ` Jan D.
2015-03-30 13:58             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-30 14:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-30 20:51                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-31  2:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-31 13:26                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-03-31 14:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-31 21:07                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-01  2:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-01  3:55                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-30 14:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-31 14:14                 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-03-31 21:08                   ` Stefan Monnier

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