From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20897: 25.0.50; [python] sexp-movement are confusing Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:48:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87616blr7a.fsf@gmx.us> <558C296B.7030807@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435283362 20285 80.91.229.3 (26 Jun 2015 01:49:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20897@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 26 03:49:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8IlS-0008Ao-6q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:49:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57987 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8IlR-0008Rk-It for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57189) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8IlN-0008RR-Pc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:49:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8IlK-00057X-Ja for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8IlK-00057D-Fj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8IlK-0007CM-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20897 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20897-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20897.143528331627635 (code B ref 20897); Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20897) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2015 01:48:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57655 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Ikt-0007Be-Es for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:50781) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Ikq-0007BV-H0 for 20897@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t5Q1mU8C024647; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A215BAE182; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:48:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <558C296B.7030807@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?="'s message of "Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:16:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5348=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5348> : inlines <3288> : streams <1461519> : uri <1969377> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:104359 Archived-At: > If inside an expression C-M-f should to to its end. No, as explained elsewhere, C-M-f's binding is a binding that goes to the end of the expression that immediately *follows* point. If we're *inside* a sexp, the way to jump to its end is up-list. I understand you want/like to jump to the end of the enclosing expression, and that's fine, but this is not what C-M-f should do by default. Stefan