From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22066: 24.5; documentation for "values" is not accurate Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zhksiyyl.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87blcvm3m4.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6846"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Shiyao Ma , 22066@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 08 22:42:46 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9EIu-0001fE-Uj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 22:42:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44766 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9EIu-0004yB-0r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l98yF-0005mB-1O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:01:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l98yE-0000R0-B2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l98yE-0002zC-8K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22066 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 22066-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22066.161280005711460 (code B ref 22066); Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22066) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2021 16:00:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51746 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l98y8-0002yl-NH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:00:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:14425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l98y7-0002yZ-3g for 22066@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:00:56 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 78F5E80B6D; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 11:00:49 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 326138063A; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 11:00:48 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1612800048; bh=yTIqBdDFF24BveaHoN/IMJrv+FMWMlTa7c2Qbc5AcUY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Ey9YvFG2ivjVR+mhor/FfbRULrnOAxgXEXKPV5QNsgR5wvYdmonvntxYLt6Da9crQ SXxnjhrFRFqBFpyNMskfzodsIPx54TQ7PVjGJeeuWl5fE7mK2OFUTYY77EGC38VXMv 7lgQQ0XWhAPiTuKPLFq4EGawXQ+LNj8jp3dhUyi12B7bdEQ7U8hWJWlHigzasjk75E gHZuZsfMgDkU4htM5fxQrig/Is8OxfgDXALQNO5smCCtV17TY2Bz7j5lCIE2m1Lgi7 AjzaV1hRWhpIM6eaLtJhkcXAG1kDIbwUC/30sbfbN2BO5oWa2kXtBW0CDl8u0VFpT/ FlOn+spyANLhg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.41.47]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D97081202C2; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 11:00:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87blcvm3m4.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2021 08:16:03 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:199626 Archived-At: FWIW, I think this `values` thingy should die. It's just a memory leak plus one of the very few special-case variables that are globally bound yet shouldn't be considered a `special-variable-p` (The only other such cases I can remember are `pi` (obsoleted by float-pi in 23.3) and `argv` and `argi` (both of which should also be made obsolete, tho haven't yet either)). IOW if we want to keep this feature, we should add some code to trim the list and we should rename it so it doesn't need a special treatment. Stefan