From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67141: 30.0.50; Missing element in the backtrace Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:01:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83sf59u4vy.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39252"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 67141@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 17 20:03:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r447g-000A1l-PU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:03:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r447K-0007UQ-WA; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:03:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r447J-0007UG-UA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:03:01 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r447J-0007Kk-KT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:03:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r447J-0001M8-N2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:03:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 19:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67141 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67141-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67141.17002477295155 (code B ref 67141); Fri, 17 Nov 2023 19:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67141) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2023 19:02:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47157 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r446P-0001Kw-QY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:02:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:30236) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r446K-0001KO-Gn for 67141@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BA6DE8071E; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:01:54 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1700247714; bh=3KEDtGjVHUtjAi35lwBSRko5dxqZqeL3L/92cbjO9WA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=YmSmK95/D2yzScLgphfma3z+US8fovAWsv+JJ/tPa/f2cZjNBpuBhMi/hAWo7BS/P lhtxTuzZAM1lXGZXpIjQym0R+BXVZT8cX5UbXmbQIk2f0+Rdyeu9tyB/+oLPmsIq3t CufYaQA5xmYXFyM/E9Drw/kl0Pk/5PlHi/Byp10u/fKYMx5MkQ0/HIsbipvwZukfbo M6CIdXd+Z9xvslA3yR7sNrS1KJBP9qpw7TPdAnI3oAarNFRnGi3tIEl+jhklecBw/L 5VkwE1RLczgZdwMEL2W/7aTLmkoLNgMkHhYMsnyzNF0oLmNF13dzYTlfZs+GHVca73 au5hsKEg1+9dg== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0E8F48024B; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:01:54 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from alfajor (alfajor.sf.umontreal.ca [10.35.225.234]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03A3C120298; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:01:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2023 04:35:48 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274513 Archived-At: >> mmmh, my crystal ball suggests that some (native compiled) code is >> calling directly a primitive (eval) without going through funcall, as a >> consequence no backtrace is recorded. AFAIR that's what happen with >> byte compiled code with primitves with assigned (byte)op-code as well. > > PS and indeed similarly what happen calling a primitive from other C > code. But C code can choose whether it calls `F` directly or goes through `Ffuncall`, whereas for ELisp code there is no such control. It impacts debugging and profiling, in my experience. Stefan