From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3080: 23.0.92; emacsclient can not open frame without visiting file Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:02:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200904222125.n3MLP4kN008572@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <20090423003855.GK7931@finestructure.net> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240500275 24255 80.91.229.12 (23 Apr 2009 15:24:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Dan Nicolaescu , rfrancoise@debian.org To: Jameson Rollins Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 23 17:25:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lx0oC-0005Dh-Vm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:25:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51034 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lx0mn-0003xh-RU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lx0mP-0003qe-ED for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lx0mK-0003o4-NE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34057 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lx0mK-0003np-DW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:23:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:44155) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lx0mJ-0003MX-MA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:23:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3NFNr61020425; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:23:53 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3NFA3GQ016612; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:10:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3080 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3080-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3080.124049893914573 (code B ref 3080); Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3080) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Apr 2009 15:02:19 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3NF2BYL014566 for <3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:02:12 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwGAD8g8ElMCrUB/2dsb2JhbACBT85/g3UGhS4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,236,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="37507529" Original-Received: from 76-10-181-1.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.181.1]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2009 11:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 83B177EFE; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:02:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20090423003855.GK7931@finestructure.net> (Jameson Rollins's message of "Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:38:55 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:24:00 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27420 Archived-At: > Hi, Dan. Thanks for the response. What I was trying to outline below > was partially whether the functionality worked or not, but also that > the emacsclient interface is different that the standard emacs > interface, and that this seems a little bit unfortunate, seeing as > they could be the same. The reason is simply that "emacsclient" has existed for a long time and the previous behavior was not compatible with the one of "emacs". > Would it be possible to have them be the same? Only by breaking compatibility with scripts that were written for older "emacsclient"s. Note that if you really switch to a setup based on emacs-daemon, then you'll only ever use "emacsclient" on the command line, so the compatibility with the "emacs" command line wouldn't be that important. Stefan