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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 39962@debbugs.gnu.org, pieter-l@vanoostrum.org,
	Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>,
	eggert@cs.ucla.edu
Subject: bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 12:31:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwveetss1xy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831rpw8bf3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Mar 2020 18:30:40 +0200")

> But what does "valid" mean in this case?  The part that looks at the
> stack uses the stack-marking routines, and thus inherits the
> "conservative" nature of stack marking.  The code also makes it quite
> clear that it only considers "live" objects as valid, and a killed
> buffer is not "live".

[ I understand I'm late to this game, but just want to clarify
  a point here.  ]

There are two uses of the word "live" at play here:
- The use coming from Emacs for whether a buffer has been killed or not.
- The use coming from the realm of memory management where it means that
  the object can't be reclaimed because some pointers still point to it
  (and may still be dereferenced or compared).

The GC's marking is only concerned about liveness in the
memory-management sense.


        Stefan






  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-16 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-06 23:55 bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90 Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07  7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07  8:40   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07  8:41   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 10:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 11:06   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 13:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 15:06       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 15:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 15:49           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 16:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 17:21               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 18:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 19:14                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-07 19:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-07 22:07                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09  4:00     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-08  7:42 ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08  9:34   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 10:05     ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08 21:37       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 21:58         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-08 22:34         ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-08 23:58           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09  0:01             ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-09 13:26               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09 17:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-09 19:48                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 13:37                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-09 19:51                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-09 21:32                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 10:52                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-10 14:19                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-10 16:36                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 14:32                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 15:16                               ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11 15:43                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 15:51                                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-11 16:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-11 17:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-11 18:53                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-11 19:34                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-12 10:32                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-12 15:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-12 20:36                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  9:39                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 13:56                                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13 16:30                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14  9:02                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 15:39                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 16:00                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-14 16:15                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 16:57                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14 18:34                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 19:09                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-14 20:10                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 12:12                                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-15 14:53                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 12:09                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2020-03-15 14:50                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 16:31                                                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-03-11 20:03                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-12 13:55                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-12 18:13                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-12 20:00                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  8:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13  8:39                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13  9:19                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 17:43                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-14  3:38                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-14  8:37                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14  9:16                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-14 15:34                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-13 17:42                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-13 19:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-13 21:35                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-14  8:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-14 21:32                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-15 19:49                                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-15 19:57                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-15 23:26                                                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-16 10:44                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-16 15:07                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 15:33                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-16 17:19                                                                 ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  3:29                                                                   ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17  4:54                                                                     ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  5:20                                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  8:45                                                                         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 13:54                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17 15:27                                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 20:16                                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17 23:32                                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 15:05                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-19 13:23                                                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-19 13:57                                                                                       ` Pip Cet
2020-03-21 21:22                                                                                         ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-22 14:21                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 15:48                                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-03-23 19:34                                                                                             ` Pip Cet
2020-03-17  8:40                                                                       ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-17 15:33                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-17 20:59                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-18  6:17                                                                         ` Pip Cet
2020-03-18  9:22                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-03-18 11:38                                                                             ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 11:57                                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-03-18 14:08                                                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-03-19 19:17                                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-19 19:31                                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2020-03-19 21:30                                                                                     ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-18 14:08                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-16 18:36                                                                 ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-13  7:58                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 15:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-10 18:23                           ` Pieter van Oostrum
2020-03-11  8:22                         ` Paul Eggert
2022-04-30 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-29 13:19   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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