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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: jixiuf <jixiuf@qq.com>, 45619@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#45619: 28.0.50; pcase-let on MacOS doesn't work
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:19:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwveeiwpypx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9c99duj.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:38:12 +0100")

>> Hmm... so-called "non-linear patterns".  We should emit a warning when the
>> same var is used twice in a pattern, indeed, to avoid surprises.
>
> Not sure if we speak about the same case.  I spoke about this: I caught
> myself trying something like that:
>
> (defvar thing-tag 'a-thing)
>
> (let ((my-thing (cons thing-tag '(thing-contents...))))
>   (pcase my-thing
>     (`(,thing-tag . ,contents) (do-something-with contents))))

Ah, indeed it's not the same thing as non-linear patterns.

An example of a non-linear pattern could be:

    (pcase foo
      (`(,a . ,a)
       (message "foo is a pair with car equal to cdr"))
      ...)

For your use case, you can write:

      (pcase my-thing
        (`(,(pred (equal thing-tag)) . ,contents) (do-something-with contents))))

> Something diametral to my previous suggestion, I don't know if it would
> be appropriate: You know scheme syntax rules and it's concept of
> hygiene?  Similarly in `pcase' we could silently transform any
> appearance of a SYMBOL with a fresh uninterned symbol.  While that would
> not change the behavior for the common use cases, it would be clear that
> bindings created by pcase would never interfere in any way with already
> existing bindings of any kind.

I know about macro hygiene, but what you describe is a mechanism
to get a particular semantics (a form a hygiene, typically), but I don't
understand what semantics you're trying to get.

Could you give some examples of problems you'd like to avoid this way?

> Being able to change the binding of a special variable sounds nice, but
> I think that could also happen by accident, right?

As I said, I think we should declare this is unsupported and try to emit
a warning what we detect such a thing (tho we should still support
corner cases like

    (pcase-let
        (((,foo . ,bar) (blabla))
         (default-directory (blibli)))
      ...)


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-07 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-03  7:59 bug#45619: 28.0.50; pcase-let on MacOS doesn't work jixiuf
2021-01-04 12:44 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-01-04 15:41   ` Drew Adams
2021-01-04 17:41   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-04 19:50     ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-01-04 20:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-04 22:08     ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-01-05  2:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-07 11:38         ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-01-07 15:19           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-01-08 20:05             ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-01-08 22:13               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-12  7:46   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-12 14:56     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-12 16:30       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-12 17:10         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-12 17:21           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-12 22:33             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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