From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: Please disable the audible bell by default, to avoid discouraging newbies in crowded offices and elsewhere Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:19:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200811062334.mA6NYLB6012009@mothra.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226025771 28335 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2008 02:42:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jason Spiro , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 03:43:54 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KyHKD-0007QW-Ki for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:43:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59774 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyHJ6-0004Se-B1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyHG5-0001Ve-U2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:39:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyHG5-0001Ud-7T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:39:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49097 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyHG5-0001UU-3Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:39:37 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:34480) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KyH6y-0001CM-1p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:30:13 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA72U5hL024555; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:30:06 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mA72P4jm023244; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:25:04 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1305 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1305.122602438421924 (code B ref 1305); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:25:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Nov 2008 02:19:44 +0000 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA72JfYB021918 for <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:19:42 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtcEAGM0E0lMCqyo/2dsb2JhbACBdspSg1aBEIIh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,560,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="29497610" Original-Received: from 76-10-172-168.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.172.168]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2008 21:19:35 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id ECEB3703DA; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:19:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200811062334.mA6NYLB6012009@mothra.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:34:21 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:39:37 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22198 Archived-At: > FWIW, I find the beep annoying and useless too. I disable it in .emacs, > but every time I have to use emacs -Q to debug something it gets on my > nerves.... I hate all forms of beeping. So I'm definitely in favor of using the visual bell by default, tho I never dared to propose it, seeing how it's not even in the "Options" menu. Stefan