From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7383: 24.0.50; end-of-line style on remote files Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:14:09 -0300 Message-ID: References: <871v0mllx7.fsf@gmx.de> <87wriek4ke.fsf@gmx.de> <87oc3qjxbl.fsf@gmx.de> <87bozmitut.fsf@gmx.de> <87ei4eaa7d.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304522358 32328 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2011 15:19:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7383@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 17:19:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdr7-00029Z-PJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 17:19:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49604 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdr7-0002St-8o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:19:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47614) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdr0-0002Mt-18 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:19:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdqy-0002vQ-Sc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:19:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57164) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdqy-0002vC-L0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdn5-00062B-3v; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:15:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 15:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7383 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7383-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7383.130452206023132 (code B ref 7383); Wed, 04 May 2011 15:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7383) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2011 15:14:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdmO-000613-8i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:14:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdmM-00060q-VP for 7383@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:14:19 -0400 Original-Received: from 121-249-126-200.fibertel.com.ar ([200.126.249.121]:12237 helo=ceviche.home) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHdmH-0004sp-CP; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:14:13 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D42EA662FC; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:14:09 -0300 (ART) In-Reply-To: <87ei4eaa7d.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Wed, 04 May 2011 15:04:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:15:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:46205 Archived-At: >> So now I wonder two things: >> 1. In what cases do we want to have text-mode ftp transfers when >> working with remote files? >> Because, IMO TRT would be to always use binary mode, i.e., always >> work with the file >> in its actual EOL format. I think that is what users expect, don't they? > See the code of `ange-ftp-write-region'. Binary transfer is explicitely > disabled for Emacsen on MS Windows machines, if not said otherwise by > `ange-ftp-binary-file-name-regexp': > (binary (or (ange-ftp-binary-file filename) > (and (not (memq system-type > '(ms-dos windows-nt))) > (memq (ange-ftp-host-type host user) > '(unix dumb-unix))))) > Similar (but not identical) checks are in `ange-ftp-insert-file-contents' > and `ange-ftp-copy-file-internal'. I think all this non-binary business in ange-ftp is inherited from pre-Mule issues. So I'd be tempted to always use binary now. > And there are comments about it, like "Binary file transfers between > machines of different architectures can be a risky business.". I can't think of any case where a non-binary FTP transfer will correctly convert to/from the internal file-format, and where Emacs can't do the same or better. Stefan