From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11565: delayed init variables don't get documentation properties Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:27:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874nr09j5y.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338236935 28660 80.91.229.3 (28 May 2012 20:28:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11565@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 28 22:28:53 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6Yb-0003mm-EY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 22:28:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44461 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6Yb-0004zy-30 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43415) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6YX-0004zT-GW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:28:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6YV-0004au-MU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:28:45 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37515) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6YV-0004an-Iz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:28:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6Zm-0000dW-9H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:30:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11565 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11565-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11565.13382369642383 (code B ref 11565); Mon, 28 May 2012 20:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11565) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 May 2012 20:29:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6Z9-0000cO-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:29:23 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:56186) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ6Yp-0000bw-26 for 11565@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:29:22 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4SKRhIc015771; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:27:43 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D125EB4191; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:27:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <874nr09j5y.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 28 May 2012 15:53:29 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4235=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4235> : streams <761746> : uri <1120568> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60436 Archived-At: >>> I guess either we undo 3), or change 2) so that it sets the variable to >>> nil. The latter seems ok to me ...? >> Undoing the var-part of 3 sounds fine to me. > There's a downside to doing that, in that bug#11036 will be reopened. It doesn't strike me as a serious problem. > What's the downside to making custom-initialize-delay temporarily bind > variables to nil? The downside is that I don't know the consequences ;-) > Another option: Snarf-documentation to check if variables are bound, or > members of custom-delayed-init-variables. Yuck. > PS this issue will presumably go away if you go through with > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-05/msg00474.html That's likely to happen, indeed. Stefan