From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13752: Suggestions regarding the minibuffer Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:02:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361217787 14596 80.91.229.3 (18 Feb 2013 20:03:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13752@debbugs.gnu.org To: E Sabof Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 18 21:03:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Wvv-00035W-D2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:03:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43406 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Wvb-0003bp-Ew for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:03:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60505) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7WvW-0003bD-Kz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:03:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7WvV-0005WO-GR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:03:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57960) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U7WvV-0005WK-Db for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:03:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7WwU-0005QD-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13752 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13752-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13752.136121782220812 (code B ref 13752); Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13752) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2013 20:03:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35191 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Ww9-0005Pd-Sn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:32620) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Ww7-0005PT-1D for 13752@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:03:40 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxKjI/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxKjI/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="1680165" Original-Received: from 69-196-168-200.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.168.200]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 18 Feb 2013 15:02:36 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 540346C2AF; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:02:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (E. Sabof's message of "Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:44:36 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71497 Archived-At: > 1. Would it be possible to add a property to error symbols that would > prevent the error message from appearing in the mini-buffer? I see > little utility in messages such a "End of buffer", "Beginning of buffer" > and "Text read-only". > It could be seen as implementation logic leaking into UI. I don't think these messages have anything to do with implementation. Instead, they're present to explain to the user why nothing else happened in response to their keypress. As for your request, I would welcome a patch that makes the display of error messages more flexible. > 2. Could an option be created that wouldn't allow messages (regular or > error) from being displayed, while the minibuffer is active and selected? Not displaying them might not be the best default choice (tho an option for it could be OK), but I'd welcome a patch that makes them less intrusive (e.g. display the message at the end of the minibuffer, like the " [No match]" message in completions). Stefan